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Muslims and free speech
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why is it that Muslims can't handle the fact that people have freedom of speech in the western world?
Today some lunatics killed 12 people in France because they worked for a magazine that published a cartoon of the prophet Mohammed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900259/Gunmen-kill-11-Charlie-Hebdo-attack.html
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The easy answer would be because that's just how religion is. When you have certain ideals and beliefs taught to you and your people for centuries it's very difficult to think any other way.
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The easy answer would be because that's just how religion is. When you have certain ideals and beliefs taught to you and your people for centuries it's very difficult to think any other way.


It seems that Islam is the only religion like that in the Western world though
I haven't heard of Jew blowing himself up outside of the Comedy Central headquarters because of South Park
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iamtheredseven wrote:

The easy answer would be because that's just how religion is. When you have certain ideals and beliefs taught to you and your people for centuries it's very difficult to think any other way.


It seems that Islam is the only religion like that in the Western world though
I haven't heard of Jew blowing himself up outside of the Comedy Central headquarters because of South Park
honestly before the Balfour declaration for the creation of israel ben gurion and co. engaged in terrorism in Palestine
http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2011/10/10/the-real-story-of-how-israel-was-created/

this is not to exculpate what the muslims have being done throughout the centuries in name of islam in africa,middle east and asia.i am just pointing out that nobody is excused from this atrocity ...heck even the hindus have engaged in acts of violence agaisnt christians and muslims now and in the past as well

i will also ad that in the case of western countries they should have better immigration policies from muslim countries because those people have a hard time to assimilate because of religion and culture clash

Posted 1/7/15 , edited 1/7/15
You know to be honest I don't understand it. I support religion so long as it's not murderous, and I don't understand why people of any religion would believe this is what their God would want them to do.


Bluntly, I'm just going to say that this is not uncommon for the religion, but again, don't base your beliefs of an entire people and faith off the fanatical extremist sect of it. For every Muslim who does this, there's ten fold who are just like you and me.

I'm Catholic, but sort of off branch. I'm for gay marriage, women's choice, even women as priests, but I don't force my beliefs down people's throat.

I watch Family Guy, who make jokes about God, Jesus, all that stuff all the time. Does it bother me? A little. But they have more than a right to create it. Freedom of speech is not selective.


Posted 1/7/15 , edited 1/21/15
religion is a disgusting and primitive practice that should be eradicated from the face of this planet. and I'm speaking for all religions, not just islam.

I'm seeing first-hand what religion does to my own father. he's studying Buddhism, but I think it can make a person become really OCD and holier-than-thou very quickly. it's annoying.

and anyone who doesn't believe in their "god" or their "way of life" is automatically a bad person...

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religion is a disgusting and primitive practice that should be eradicated from the face of this planet. and I'm speaking for all religions, not just islam.

I'm seeing first-hand what religion does to my own father. he's studying Buddhism, but I think it can make a person become really OCD and holier-than-thou very quickly. it's annoying.

and anyone who doesn't believe in their "god" or their "way of life" is automatically a bad person...

you gotta be thankful that you werent born in a communist country which atheist beliefs allows/allowed them to persecute gays in unspeakable ways because of communist dogma.so much for atheism to be the panacea of free progressive thinking

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you gotta be thankful that you werent born in a communist country which atheist beliefs allows/allowed them to persecute gays in unspeakable ways because of communist dogma.so much for atheism to be the panacea of free progressive thinking



how is that worse than forcing gays to go to straight camp.... or driving your own 15 years old transgendered child to suicide because of your Christian beliefs?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/31/us/ohio-transgender-teen-suicide/
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how is that worse than forcing gays to go to straight camp.... or driving your own 15 years old transgendered child to suicide because of your Christian beliefs?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/31/us/ohio-transgender-teen-suicide/
but you dont see this on a widespread scale like in the middle east and asia and communist countries

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As a reminder, Islam is not the only religion who's extremists are capable of or who are actively acting in violence. For example, look to the Buddhists and the Rohingya genocide which has been going off and on for years now.. So I guess the real question is why extremists in religions act as they do.
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My friend well said just one remark that religion( Islam) that have not change with the times like the rest.
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

why is it that Muslims can't handle the fact that people have freedom of speech in the western world?
Today some lunatics killed 12 people in France because they worked for a magazine that published a cartoon of the prophet Mohammed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900259/Gunmen-kill-11-Charlie-Hebdo-attack.html


Though making cartoons of religious figures may not seem much of a deal in western world, but for Muslims, it's quite a grave matter and lot of times in past, Muslim countries have protested against it. Even after all this protesting, if you go insult their religion so openly, there are bound to be people who would take such actions...
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GayAsianBoy wrote:

religion is a disgusting and primitive practice that should be eradicated from the face of this planet. and I'm speaking for all religions, not just islam.

I'm seeing first-hand what religion does to my own father. he's studying Buddhism, but I think it can make a person become really OCD and holier-than-thou very quickly. it's annoying.

and anyone who doesn't believe in their "god" or their "way of life" is automatically a bad person...



In developed countries, civil government dictates the law and society promotes the morals. But there are places in this world, where these laws and morals hold not even an ounce of value and in such places, only religion has kept the people acting civilized... So someone living in highly developed country may not realize it but religion has huge positive impact in society...
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perrandy wrote:

but you dont see this on a widespread scale like in the middle east and asia and communist countries



In middle east you can go to jail or even get death sentence because of homosexuality
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Maybe it's time we equip are enforcers with real weapons so they can gun down these inbreds. Look how they freely run through the streets of a civilized world with an Assualt Rifle like it's some shitty 3rd world country, and they are still on the lose?


God bless 'Murrica
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