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Pokemon isn't a made by america.
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wingsday wrote:

I don't get the hate for rwby, its not an anime, it was never intended to be an anime; why people insist on comparing it to anime is beyond my comprehension.

I'll admit that it dosen't have that great of a story, and the animation is bad, but it is a low-budget animated web series made by a small company that specializes in making youtube videos about video games. Now compare that to a representitive anime: FMA:B, it was produced with a large budget, by a large company that produces similar media as their primary method of business. See where I'm coming from?


RWBY is compared to anime because it is heavily inspired by anime and some people genuinely see it as anime. Another factor is that it has enough popularity so that its critics cannot ignore it. If it was unpopular, and unknown who could be bothered to care about it?

I personally like RWBY. It is definitely not the most original or on par with shows like Avatar, but it is still very enjoyable despite its limitations. I think that the effort that the team puts into their work is apparent when viewing it. It has also been progressively improving, so I have high hopes for future seasons.
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If you think that there isn't any good American animation--or even American animation inspired by Japanese Anime--then you just aren't paying attention. There is a ton of really good American animation and other drawn media being produced right now--and it goes way beyond Avatar.

Unlike in Japan and Korea (I know nothing about China), drawn media (animation, cartoons, comics, graphic novels, etc.) in the United States was almost always perceived as something for children/teens--until fairly recently. Even the Japanese anime that successfully crossed the Pacific tended to fit this mold: Voltron, Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh, etc. Of course, there were always a few exceptions (see: Batman; Judge Parker), but they were always seen as just that: exceptions.

That was the case until The Simpsons came, and inspired a host of other animated shows (Family Guy, South Park, Beevis and Butthead, etc.). Those shows were widely popular, and clearly for adults. As a result, now you have developing a distinct American style of animation that isn't based on Peanuts, Snow White, or Superman--that is to say, it's written for an older audience, and addresses real-world, adult issues.

The other factor is that Pixar came along and started making extremely popular animated movies that, while still largely accessible to children, clearly fall outside of the traditional Disney Fairy Tale or Super Hero traditions--and are explicitly inspired by Japanese anime.

Personally, I think that, in turn, is helping to fuel an increased awareness of and appreciation for Japanese anime and manga, and it's also contributing to the rise in popularity for graphic novels and other comic-style media (Cartoon Guide to the Universe, for instance).

You may not think of The Simpsons or Wall-E as "American anime"--but John Lassiter (longtime head ot Pixas, now head of Disney Animation since the two merged) has explicitly cited Hayao Miyazaki as one of his primary influences, and The Simpsons for a long time outsourced much of their animation to a Korea studio. Hell, read a 4-Koma manga and watch a Simpsons episode back to back, and tell me that the latter doesn't feel like the former.
Posted 1/14/15

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severticas wrote:

Koreans and Chinese have their distinct style, you can tell if it's their work...
Korean, Chinese and Japanese languages are similar :).
Manhwa most of the times does not look like manga. Webtoons look more like Comics.

Ah someone said it. Oh well.


My avi is from Tower of God
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_God



Well, i would disagree, some manhwa and manhua looks more jap than others
and there are jap mangas that are , well really untraditional and distinct

also, dont forget Hong Kong comics, they are really really nicely drawn, better than most jap seriously and they are coloured, its sad that their industry is super small


Well perhaps.

I have not tried HK comics, must try. Thanks
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severticas wrote:


another505 wrote:


severticas wrote:

Koreans and Chinese have their distinct style, you can tell if it's their work...
Korean, Chinese and Japanese languages are similar :).
Manhwa most of the times does not look like manga. Webtoons look more like Comics.

Ah someone said it. Oh well.


My avi is from Tower of God
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_God



Well, i would disagree, some manhwa and manhua looks more jap than others
and there are jap mangas that are , well really untraditional and distinct

also, dont forget Hong Kong comics, they are really really nicely drawn, better than most jap seriously and they are coloured, its sad that their industry is super small


Well perhaps.

I have not tried HK comics, must try. Thanks


Would suggest
City of Darkness (九龙城寨)
- Kung Fu fighting, mafias and triads

and 幻城 (Ice Fantasy)
- Beautiful although short

- The Ravages of Time (火凤燎原)
- Base on Romance of Three Dynasty, currently would say the most successful manga is sales for HK
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Closest thing to Japanese animation style here I'd say is Avatar the Last Airbender and the Legend of Korra.
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I think "American" anime has its own terminology.

Anime means Japanese animated productions. Maybe the term for "American" anime would be animated series.
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I think of RWBY or Legend of Korra when it comes to this. People here in America, or just people in general, like to categorize things to make it more convenient for themselves. So, based on what I have heard so far, Anime made here in America would be considered "Cartoons" or a "Web Series". Manga made here in America is, of course, Comics. I, personally, enjoy using web series.
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I think that if the term "anime" is applicable for American work, it would probably be for a genre within animation.
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Pokemon is 100% Japanese.

American attempts on anime tend to be kind of funny because they keep the subject matter pretty tame in comparison to actual anime, but they exaggerate all of the anime expressions. That said Avatar was pretty entertaining.

Still, American (non-anime) animation can be good, at times. Gargoyles and Spawn were fantastic. Superman Doomsday or whatever was pretty good too. If you have never seen Gargoyles go watch it, smartest cartoon Disney ever produced. Probably the darkest too (which is why I am guessing they cancelled it).
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cielinadress wrote:

Huh. Would it be easy to find them subbed in English? I'm interested in sampling these...


In fact, there's enough demand that one of the Korean sites made an official English language site, http://www.webtoons.com/ . There are a few non-Korean ones, but you can generally pick those out by their low ratings. Noblesse and Tower of God are two popular ones that are up to date.
If you hunt around, it's also easy to find other ones that have fan translations.


there's also the English app , which it was originally designed for. It's called LINE webtoon. ^^
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The closest thing to true american anime I can think of is black dynomite and boondocks thatair on funi's saturday night toonami. Artistically I think they are ok. As they lack my other criteria namely ; plot, story music charictors and romance. I don't watch them. But I wouldn't call them_ bad jst not interesting to me personaly.
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bernardwheelerjr wrote:

The closest thing to true american anime I can think of is black dynomite and boondocks thatair on funi's saturday night toonami. Artistically I think they are ok. As they lack my other criteria namely ; plot, story music charictors and romance. I don't watch them. But I wouldn't call them_ bad jst not interesting to me personaly.


I haven't seen Black Dynamite. Boondocks is completely satire and comedy though, and for the most part it is hilarious. It has strong characters though, stronger characters than your typical harem.
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Just a dub from the same company that thought up this contraption...



What is that? What even is that?
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