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Hoping for more JDrama annoucements for the UK...
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HORROR NEWS sounds interesting. i'll watch that.
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Khaltazar wrote: Please tell me you're getting these for free and not wasting money getting the licenses for them rather than using that money to get licenses for shows where the characters don't look like action figures.

Note that with a royalty system, it is primarily the views that determine "how much money" they pay. There are Minimum Guaranteed royalties, which guarantee to the content provider that they do not lose money on the expenses of providing the series to Crunchyroll ... but if Crunchyroll sets the MG's correctly (which they have to be doing most of the time in order to be making a profit), its still a case of the views of the shows generating the royalties that provide the income to the licensor.

Since Crunchyroll creates each "episode stream distribution" on demand, its not like a license pick up by a physical distributor, where the distributor has promised to press a certain amount of DVDs and produce a certain number of box sets, and so with the monetary risk of each license pick-up, there are only so many licenses they can pick up in a year.

So "I hope they didn't spend the money on this needed for that" doesn't normally apply to video streaming, at least not for a video streaming service like Crunchyroll that generates a profit.
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kronosking wrote:


Khaltazar wrote:


Zodai wrote:


Khaltazar wrote:

Please tell me you're getting these for free and not wasting money getting the licenses for them rather than using that money to get licenses for shows where the characters don't look like action figures.


I doubt they're really for 'free', but chances are they're cheaper than the average high-budget show. I'm not a fan of them myself but it's good to branch into further possibilities, especially if they're under-represented. That's how anime started out at first anyway.


I'd rather they spent that money to attain the licenses for current season anime for more regions. Anime like this is something that maybe a few people who are terribly bored will try and most likely they will dump after an episode or two.


Well it's horrible low budget CG. People watched RWBY. I'm not sure what the difference is.

I'll admit, RWBY's CG is really bad, but it has other things that make up for it. The CG also becomes tolerable once you get used to it.
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Khaltazar wrote: Please tell me you're getting these for free and not wasting money getting the licenses for them rather than using that money to get licenses for shows where the characters don't look like action figures.

Note that with a royalty system, it is primarily the views that determine "how much money" they pay. There are Minimum Guaranteed royalties, which guarantee to the content provider that they do not lose money on the expenses of providing the series to Crunchyroll ... but if Crunchyroll sets the MG's correctly (which they have to be doing most of the time in order to be making a profit), its still a case of the views of the shows generating the royalties that provide the income to the licensor.

Since Crunchyroll creates each "episode stream distribution" on demand, its not like a license pick up by a physical distributor, where the distributor has promised to press a certain amount of DVDs and produce a certain number of box sets, and so with the monetary risk of each license pick-up, there are only so many licenses they can pick up in a year.

So "I hope they didn't spend the money on this needed for that" doesn't normally apply to video streaming, at least not for a video streaming service like Crunchyroll that generates a profit.

I would think that with shows like these, a small upfront fee for the license would make more sense. In any case, given that these shows aren't making ANY money for whoever currently holds the rights, I would imagine that the cost was quite small.
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Fen_Star wrote: I would think that with shows like these, a small upfront fee for the license would make more sense.

A small upfront fee is what it will end up being, until the shows earn back their minimum guarantee and start earning residual royalties. For these shows, that could end up being a while.

The benefit of the royalty system is that it gives the licensor a share in the benefit if the series is unexpectedly popular, so they have a greater incentive to offer the license at the same up front cost, so the Minimum Guarantee that you have to offer can be lower than the up-front license payment would be.


In any case, given that these shows aren't making ANY money for whoever currently holds the rights, I would imagine that the cost was quite small.

It would be enough to cover the transaction costs, but since they look like a package deal, the contracting costs are split between two titles. And since they are not current broadcasts, the materials can be delivered at one time, rather than once per episode, so the handling costs will be much lower than a simulcast.

A lot of people still have a physical disc distribution mindset, and think of license pickups as if a company picking up one title makes it harder for the company to pick up another.

Its not really like that for streaming video. As long as a title is watched by some people, it will help push some people over the edge between "watch free" and "subscribe". And then if any of those people also watch the stuff I like, that helps the earnings of the series I like, and makes it more likely Crunchyroll can license more titles of the kind I like in the future.

And so even if the animation of these titles is nothing to be excited about, the region distribution is, since there are some parts of the world that have a lot fewer catalog titles to catch up on to tide them over a weak season, and these titles expand the catalog everywhere outside of Japan except the ROK. That includes a lot of places where the catalog cupboard is quite poorly stocked, including the Latin American and the continental European sites in Spain/Portugal, France, and Germany.

And it extends to places that have a very, very limited selection indeed, including Sub-Saharan Africa aside from South Africa and Southeast Asia. It even extends to China, where the selection is just a random set of other things with "worldwide except for" licensing.
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That makes Daiki and Jin's anger get to the high peak!!


Makes their what go where now?
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