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Also, before the Shadowrun manga there was the Shadowrun pen and paper RPG that was put out by FASA in either very late 1980s or early 1990s.


First edition 1989, it was horribly flawed but nothing unusual at the time.
Second edition in 1992 was a lot better, it's when it really get good.
Third edition in 1998 improved again, but the game kept the basics.
Fourth edition in 2005 broke the game mechanics, ambiance, and setting. It became hugely more modern cyberpunk, I was delighted.
Fifth edition in 2013 get back to the basics of the 3rd edition, it's now considered a good contender to ADD domination, some say it's too casu.

Both 4th and 5th edition RPG could be adapted in great modern anime, you'd need the good persons and yata !
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I've been wanting to check that out. Decent movie?


Absolutely. The soundtrack is nice.
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Shrapnel893 wrote:

I found out about it from novels first. Then, I went back and realized I've seen lots of the subgenre already.

Texhnolyze, Battle Angel, Metropolis, GitS (of course), and Ergo Proxy. Among many others.

I've been wanting to check that out. Decent movie?

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stark700 wrote:

I've been wanting to check that out. Decent movie?

Absolutely. The soundtrack is nice.

Seconded.

Just takes a few minutes to get past the noses.
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dracphelan wrote:

I would have to say my introduction to cyberpunk was with books like Neuromancer in the early 1980s. It's hard to remember which book was the first one I read in that particular sub-genre.

Also, before the Shadowrun manga there was the Shadowrun pen and paper RPG that was put out by FASA in either very late 1980s or early 1990s. I actually used ideas from the RPG to write a paper on corporate security when I was in college (class was on corporate security).
Haha I used the shipping branch of Wayne Industries from the DC universe to create a fictional archival repository lmao complete with an escape tunnel for the staff! (Got high marks and everything )




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dracphelan wrote:

Also, before the Shadowrun manga there was the Shadowrun pen and paper RPG that was put out by FASA in either very late 1980s or early 1990s.


First edition 1989, it was horribly flawed but nothing unusual at the time.
Second edition in 1992 was a lot better, it's when it really get good.
Third edition in 1998 improved again, but the game kept the basics.
Fourth edition in 2005 broke the game mechanics, ambiance, and setting. It became hugely more modern cyberpunk, I was delighted.
Fifth edition in 2013 get back to the basics of the 3rd edition, it's now considered a good contender to ADD domination, some say it's too casu.

Both 4th and 5th edition RPG could be adapted in great modern anime, you'd need the good persons and yata !
I was only able to squeak out one run in the 4th edition. It was also my first time every playing an RPG. It's been one of my all-time favorite settings since! And the 5th edition is more streamlined huh?? Good to know. My only gripe with the 4th was the ridiculous amounts of dice I had to roll. I never got the hang of it. At all during the entire course of the campaign.
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My only gripe with the 4th was the ridiculous amounts of dice I had to roll. I never got the hang of it. At all during the entire course of the campaign.


Ridiculous amount of dice is Shadowrun signature, it's been since the first edition, it won't change (and anyone talking about Shadowrun D20 is just revealing they're fiends asking for a quick death to go back to hell).
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I enjoyed Mardock Scramble.
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I understand that but man was it crazy rolling 24 dice just to fail hoping a fence (yes, I rolled that many to hop a fence).... I was being chased by security guards. I failed and they tazered me... causing me to puke all over myself
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I think Aeon Flux, back in the days when MTV played music videos and latenight anime, was what first piqued my interest in the genre... then I delved into books, notably Neal Stephenson's work (oh, Deadpanditto, I remember Effinger -- his "When Gravity Fails" was a great book!), before going back to anime with shows like Akira, Appleseed, and Bubblegum Crisis. Then I found Blade Runner and Max Headroom haha! -- talk about two different takes on the same idea! =P
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snatcher for the msx and akira [film],i got exposed to those in 95[i know know,its quiet late] and my view in the world have perfectly change since then.
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akira, md geist, genocyber, ghost in the shell, X (the movie)
cyberpunk is what taught me the difference between cartoons and anime. it also linked together the other anime genres (sci fi, mecha, shonen, action)
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Shadmad wrote:

To cite good cyberpunk shows : GITS and Bubblegum Crisis, which are awesome, there would be also Psycho-Pass, Mardock Scramble, Mezzo, Dominion, and even Armitage III.

Appleseed could be fantastic based on the manga, but the anime were all such deceptions...


All good but nobody has mentioned parasite dolls. (i'm shocked texnolyze is getting such a big boost all the sudden, but then I remember that hulu has been adding a shit-ton of old titles to its list)

Armitage III was one of the earlier titles for me to watch. I really lived it. And you're totally right about Appleseed being a letdown...EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.


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Shrapnel893 wrote:

I found out about it from novels first. Then, I went back and realized I've seen lots of the subgenre already.

Texhnolyze, Battle Angel, Metropolis, GitS (of course), and Ergo Proxy. Among many others.


I've been wanting to check that out. Decent movie?


1929's fritz lang version or the anime? The old version is a silent film and inspired hitler to ask the director to create nazi propaganda videos. Instead he fled the country because he was jewish. :P

I'm going to say that you should watch both and decide.

I wasn't super impressed
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Iskandos wrote:

I think Aeon Flux, back in the days when MTV played music videos and latenight anime, was what first piqued my interest in the genre... then I delved into books, notably Neal Stephenson's work (oh, Deadpanditto, I remember Effinger -- his "When Gravity Fails" was a great book!), before going back to anime with shows like Akira, Appleseed, and Bubblegum Crisis. Then I found Blade Runner and Max Headroom haha! -- talk about two different takes on the same idea! =P


Lmafo. Max Headroom. What a product of its time. But blipverts, minus the head-splody thing, seems to be getting closer to reality. ;)

I still purge my book shelves from time to time, but I've kept all 3 of Effinger's series. It's still a good read.

The Matrix movies are definitely cyberpunk, but if you haven't watched the anime Matrix anthology, I'd recommend it. There are a few gems in there. Plus I love the soundtrack.

People have recommended most of the other anime that I can think of. One that I think people missed is "Serial Experiment Lain". Great mindbendy show.
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