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For or Against: Teenager to marry her dad
Posted 1/17/15 , edited 1/17/15
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/01/what-its-like-to-date-your-dad.html

To sum up the article: Teenager plans to marry her dad after not meeting him for 12 years. They met when she was 17 and they are currently in a relationship of 2 years. They are planning to move to New Jersey where adult incest is legal.

Are you for or against?

I voted for. Because I believe love should not depend on society's standards and expectations. You can't control who you fall in love with.
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Unless I'm involved, I couldn't care less about their relationship.
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Unless I'm involved, I couldn't care less about their relationship.


That doesn't really answer the question, but answer accepted.
Posted 1/17/15
If people want to have deformed babies, that's them. Incest ftw.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

Unless I'm involved, I couldn't care less about their relationship.


That doesn't really answer the question, but answer accepted.


your answers were yes or no.
I vote yes to give the option, but not to support.
Posted 1/17/15 , edited 1/17/15


Joke.

I couldn't care less. Fuck them.
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Let's analyze this situation. What's the harm in letting them marry each other? If it's not harmful to society, it shouldn't be banned in my opinion. I thought this over, and the rate of deformities is much higher than normal. Is this okay? Are we willing to let the increased chance of more children in the world born defectively?

After all, you're not allowed to drink during pregnancy, or it is looked down upon, and how is this any different?
Posted 1/17/15 , edited 1/17/15


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Let's analyze this situation. What's the harm in letting them marry each other? If it's not harmful to society, it shouldn't be banned in my opinion. I thought this over, and the rate of deformities is much higher than normal. Is this okay? Are we willing to let the increased chance of more children in the world born defectively?

After all, you're not allowed to drink during pregnancy, or it is looked down upon, and how is this any different?


The problem with that argument is that... it's based on genetic probability, not based on certainty. Of course, there's higher chance of genetic deformities.

But according to genetic statistics, certain race (I won't name it otherwise i'll get called racist etc) has a higher probability of passing certain genetic disease to their offspring... does that mean they should not be allowed to reproduce either?

Drinking during pregnancy causing problems is a CERTAINTY, the neonate/baby will be affected, if not deformed, they get what is called alcohol spectrum disorder.

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Posted 1/17/15 , edited 6/11/15
i support incest when it's in anime, books, or in anything really, just as long as it's not irl. (and only cousins and siblings)
Posted 1/17/15 , edited 1/17/15

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Let's analyze this situation. What's the harm in letting them marry each other? If it's not harmful to society, it shouldn't be banned in my opinion. I thought this over, and the rate of deformities is much higher than normal. Is this okay? Are we willing to let the increased chance of more children in the world born defectively?

After all, you're not allowed to drink during pregnancy, or it is looked down upon, and how is this any different?


The problem with that argument is that... it's based on genetic probability, not based on certainty. Of course, there's higher chance of genetic deformities.

But according to genetic statistics, certain race (I won't name it otherwise i'll get called racist etc) has a higher probability of passing certain genetic disease to their offspring... does that mean they should not be allowed to reproduce either?

Drinking during pregnancy causing problems is a CERTAINTY, the neonate/baby will be affected, if not deformed, they get what is called alcohol spectrum disorder.


Source? I doubt that all cases of alcohol causes problems in development. Even if it were the case, should people be allowed to take the risk? This is left to personal interpretations for the most part. As for me, I have my reservations about this case. I'm not necessarily against incest, but I believe all possible risk should be assessed to see if it should even be illegal.

Although, you do make a fair point with your race thing. Should we infringe on the rights of those with disorders by saying "Hey, you can't have children?" Due to the increased risk? I also believe this is up to personal interpretation. If it were high enough (90%?) I'd be leaning to the yes with reservation category.
Posted 1/17/15

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Source? I doubt that all cases of alcohol causes problems in development. Even if it were the case, should people be allowed to take the risk? This is left to personal interpretations for the most part. As for me, I have my reservations about this case. I'm not necessarily against incest, but I believe all possible risk should be assessed to see if it should even be illegal.


I think during pregnancy, you can drink 1 glass of white wine or something without affecting the faetus. Going over that, and doing it often will cause problems.

But the safety alcohol level is zero, just like driving, it's safer to drive on 0 alcohol levels... but the laws still allow for a few glasses. :-/

And it's not illegal to drink during pregnancy... it's just highly not encouraged.

http://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/Facts_for_Families_Pages/Drinking_Alcool_in_Pregnancy_Fetal_Alcohol_Effects_93.aspx
Posted 1/17/15 , edited 1/17/15

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Source? I doubt that all cases of alcohol causes problems in development. Even if it were the case, should people be allowed to take the risk? This is left to personal interpretations for the most part. As for me, I have my reservations about this case. I'm not necessarily against incest, but I believe all possible risk should be assessed to see if it should even be illegal.


I think during pregnancy, you can drink 1 glass of white wine or something without affecting the faetus. Going over that, and doing it often will cause problems.

But the safety alcohol level is zero, just like driving, it's safer to drive on 0 alcohol levels... but the laws still allow for a few glasses. :-/

And it's not illegal to drink during pregnancy... it's just highly not encouraged.

http://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/Facts_for_Families_Pages/Drinking_Alcool_in_Pregnancy_Fetal_Alcohol_Effects_93.aspx


Should it be illegal? I'm leaning towards maybe.

As for the rate of deformities in same bloodlines, the risk is believed to be 25%. Even so, I believe existence with deformities is much better than no existence at all, but that's mostly my own beliefs.

One of the reasons why incest may be banned is that most cases are sexual abuse cases. Not saying we should ban incest, mind you, but thought it was a significant tidbit I found in my research.
Posted 1/17/15 , edited 1/21/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Although, you do make a fair point with your race thing. Should we infringe on the rights of those with disorders by saying "Hey, you can't have children?" Due to the increased risk? I also believe this is up to personal interpretation. If it were high enough (90%?) I'd be leaning to the yes with reservation category.


Exactly, that's my point.

Some people are aware that they are carriers of a certain genetic disease. (Carrier means you carry 1 defective gene, but has 1 normal gene to cover up the defective one). Those people have a higher chance of having deformed offspring even in a non-incestuous relationship, should the laws start banning them from reproducing on the basis of "high probability" of producing a defect offspring?

The reasoning that people shouldn't marry/reproduce because there's a high chance of having a deformed child has never made sense to me, and never will.
Posted 1/17/15

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Although, you do make a fair point with your race thing. Should we infringe on the rights of those with disorders by saying "Hey, you can't have children?" Due to the increased risk? I also believe this is up to personal interpretation. If it were high enough (90%?) I'd be leaning to the yes with reservation category.


Exactly, that's my point.

Some people are aware that they are carriers of a certain genetic disease. (Carrier means you carry 1 defective gene, but has 1 normal gene to cover up the defective one). Those people have a higher chance of having deformed offspring even in a non-incestuous relationship, should the laws start banning them from reproducing on the basis of "high probability" of producing a defect offspring?

The reasoning that people shouldn't marry/reproduce because there's a high chance of having a deformed child has never made sense to me, and never will.


The reasoning is that it is perhaps better not to exist at all than to exist with a genetic disease.
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