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Posted 1/18/15 , edited 1/18/15

FlyinDumpling wrote:

You live in Florida? Be safe.


Lived in North Carolina while I was in the Air Force when I bought most of them. Actually living in Georgia now with my new job. I need to update that thanks for reminding me...
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USA has major issues with gun culture. (Edit: Judging by recent news, it's not just the USA)

It needs to go.
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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

NO. There is no need for them at this point. Ban them all.


Ok fine you can keep them if they're deactivated.


Waiting for those rednecks from the south to jump into this discussion.


For some reason I get the feeling rednecks wouldn't be on an anime site.

And I mean rednecks

Posted 1/18/15 , edited 1/18/15

GayAsianBoy wrote:

No.
I live in a country where guns are outlawed, and we don't have problems like in the USA...





Dude. I saw you posting about the sydney hostage situation quite recently.................. Imagine if the store owner was allowed to have a gun? I don't want to jinx America, but that is a weird way to make a point.


Anyways ---- I think the rules are bit too loose. Sure, criminals will find a way to get them, but there are a few cases where people with psychological problems planning an event, buying a gun then go on their spree in a short time span. I say short because I do know of waiting periods, ect, but it all seems too easy.

I have no problem with peace loving citizens wanting a gun.
Posted 1/18/15

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Dude. I saw you posting about the sydney hostage situation quite recently.................. Imagine if the store owner was allowed to have a gun? I don't want to jinx America, but that is a weird way to make a point.


Anyways ---- I think the rules are bit too loose. Sure, criminals will find a way to get them, but there are a few cases where people with psychological problems planning an event, buying a gun then go on their spree in a short time span. I say short because I do know of waiting periods, ect, but it all seems too easy.

I have no problem with peace loving citizens wanting a gun.



Hypothetically, the terrorist dies, or the shopowner dies. There will be some sort of casualties.

Peace and guns don't belong in the same sentence...
Posted 1/18/15

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Really? Not even citizens that follow the castle rules? Retreating to the farthest part of their home, announcing themselves and what they are capable of and only shooting if someone approaches on them?

The person that dislikes peace is the criminal, the intruder. The person in that situation would just be protecting their family. I'm trying to say it in a polite way, but you're having it both ways. You're way of thinking is dangerous - it is like wishing decent human beings to be raped or murdered or worse because the criminals, yes the intruder, would be the only one that wouldn't follow the law --- they are against peace.

Your way of thinking is hyper progressive (not liberal), so I won't go into it further. I respect you for replying, after re-reading what I said I was a little disappointed in myself though --- I honestly believe people don't understand causality on how guns work. Having a gun in the hands of a normal person doesn't mean people will die.

Again, thank you, have a nice day :3.
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Too soon do we forget the years of the Prohibition and Reagan's "war on drugs." As I recall, comparable events that took place in 1774-1775 didn't go over very well, either. In the USA, denying us the right to own firearms would end badly, especially when our history is taken into consideration.

http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/articles/guns&prohibition.html

http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2012/12/the-historical-connection-between-prohibition-guns-and-drugs/

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1967702
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You don't know what the word "Redneck" means, its originally an upper class slur for people who work under the sun. The oppressed and dispossessed that suffer the whims of those in power. The possibility of a gun being on hand reduces criminal behavior of would be oppressors. The first thing a Totalitarian regime does is pass gun control, under the fact that "who has guns-has power". Where do you want power to be? In your hands or others?

When you see someone you care about beaten, shot at, or raped you are faced with a choice. Do you wish to live with not being able to stop it? Most of you will never face that choice, but when it comes will you want to face it disarmed? The only thing worse than having a gun is being without one when you truly need it. That is the world you propose, not a world without violence, but where violence is unopposed.
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Shishiku wrote:


Fletcher2 wrote:

I personally believe that we as civilians deserve the right to bear arms. As stated in the Constitution we do have the right to own weapons, and I also believe that they are needed for us to be able to protect ourselves, our homes and our families. So what do you think? Should we the people be allowed to bear arms?


Don't you know guns kill people? Take all the guns away and crime goes down!....oh wait, these things called criminals exist that don't follow law so we are taking guns out of lawful citizens and criminals go unchanged.


yea its, well to be blunt, someone uses a certain gun to kill a bunch of people, they reduce the clip size of that gun or make it harder to own, yet if someone ran over a bunch of people with a big truck, they wouldn't make the truck illegal.


That's an idiotic argument. A guns main purpose is to kill, a vehicle's main purpose is to commute from A to B. And here in the UK bull bars are illegal due to them being dangerous to pedestrians if they're involved in an accident. Seatbelts are not optional, you will be fined; using your phone is not optional, you will be fined; smoking while you have children in the car is not optional, you will be fined.

I'm sure if every single country outlawed gun ownership by citizens, criminals would have a far harder time acquiring any. Guns are hard to get at all in this country as it is which drives the price of each weapon and munitions up. That alone keeps it out of many would be criminals hands. I'd much rather face a criminal unarmed against a knife other than if we both had a gun.

If you enjoy guns for pleasure, then you should accept them in controlled environments. You should only be allowed to rent a gun or rifle from licensed ranges or hunting posts. I don't agree with hunting either, but that is another topic. Before you are even allowed to use a gun at all outside a range you need to log a number of hours at a range and take a regular psych test to maintain a license. There are many more restrictions I would place on them, but this is just to whet your appetite.
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I live in a country where guns are outlawed, and we don't have problems like in the USA...



Same here, I live in Sweden and you have to get a license for guns... And a license here is almost impossible to get. Oh look, it's not even half the amount of crime here as in the US.
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Posted 1/18/15

saksiss wrote:


Shishiku wrote:


Fletcher2 wrote:

I personally believe that we as civilians deserve the right to bear arms. As stated in the Constitution we do have the right to own weapons, and I also believe that they are needed for us to be able to protect ourselves, our homes and our families. So what do you think? Should we the people be allowed to bear arms?


Don't you know guns kill people? Take all the guns away and crime goes down!....oh wait, these things called criminals exist that don't follow law so we are taking guns out of lawful citizens and criminals go unchanged.


No. Guns don't kill people. Go set a loaded gun down on a table and see if it shoots someone without making contact with it. PEOPLE are the ones that use guns to kill people. If I stab someone in the eye with a sword, is the sword at fault?


see that section of my statement that says "oh wait, these things called criminals..." yeaaaahhhh....read statements the whole way through next time . BAKA. BAKA BAKA
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I live in a country where guns are outlawed, and we don't have problems like in the USA...

Good look with Tony Abbott.
Posted 1/18/15 , edited 1/18/15
Y'know, in terms of just owning a gun, I don't really have a problem with it. A gun is not something that I would ever want to own, but I can understand that people have an interest in them, and thus want to own them. So to me personally, I'm perfectly all right with civilians owning guns and keeping certain types in their homes for personal defense and whatnot.

I'm not as comfortable with people being able to carry loaded weapons outside of their home - either in their car or on their person. But I think we have laws that deal with this. Basically, I don't think anyone should be able to carry a loaded firearm when not on their personal property or in designated "gun zones" (like a firing range or a hunting area).

But i'm probably more stringent than most on this issue. I actually think that most police officers shouldn't be able to carry guns for routine patrols and certain responses and whatnot. To many, this is pushing things to far - i'm aware. Just voicing my opinions here lol

~ Edit ~

I should also clarify my belief that it should be incredibly difficult to own a gun. I'm fine with civilians owning them - but not just any random joe who wants one obviously. I think the best way to deal with this is to just make the process extremely formal - with lots of red tape, regulations, documentation, logging, re-logging, evaluations, etc.

I said I think it's fine for civilians to own guns - I never said I wanted it to be easy lol. Demonstrate that you're a reasonable person and that your interest goes deeper than "YEA - shootings things is fun!!!"
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If a person wants to own a gun then the qualifications to get a permit should be much harder, and come with a semi-annual psyche evaluation to make sure they're still stable enough to own one. And if you have a child living in your house then on top of the qualification and semi-annual psyche evaluation, there should be also a home inspection to make sure the adults are properly keeping the firearm away from the child. Too many gun-toting parents lose their children because they were too lazy to secure their gun and their child shot themselves in the face, or went on a rampage at school.


Too many retards exist today for the "Guns in every household" stance to be of any validity.
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Personally, I think they should be outlawed.
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