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Well, I agree with you on the concept of parent characters in anime. Anime parents seriously have no issue with letting their children go off and make their own decisions in far away places. Ryuji's mom sounds like an interesting character though. I don't know anything about it though besides what you said here, so I'll make it something to look forward to when I go for attempt #2 on watching TD. I'll see if I will grow as fond of the cast as you have, because I'll need a buffer to help tolerate the train of Taiga's Tsun side.


The thing to remember about Toradora is how relationships change. And like in real life (jeez comparing RL to anime) it takes time. Yes Taiga is a tsundere, but there is dere there. (Try saying that three times fast.) If you get through the story, and I hope you do, there is a scene that goes back to episode one. Oh yeah I'd say Toradora is also a show about acceptance. Anything else on the subject gets into spoiler territory so I will leave that there.
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I don't think it's really a harem anime, but if you'd like to see the childhood friend 'win' Robotics;Notes is pretty good. Good characters and my favorite 'confession' scene in any anime, downside is that it has some weak points as far as story goes, but I found in enjoyable overall.
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Personally, I like how the characters are fleshed out throughout the show, especially Ryuji, Ryuji's mom, and Ami (who you will see later). I can't remember exactly but I wasn't hooked on Toradora until the 4th or 5th episode. When I first started watching it, I just thought it was funny and quirky and I liked that Taiga wasn't one of those boring, super shy and submissive characters that look like they could faint at any moment. Even though the way she treats Ryuji is quite overbearing at times.

I also like the focus on family and the flaws in both Ryuji's and Taiga's home life. The reverse parental relationship between Ryuji and his mom is definitely interesting to watch. I also like how small, ordinary events, like eating dinner, in the show are shown to be something heart-warming and symbolic of something more.

The events near the end are kind of weirdly written but forgivable since I did enjoy the rest of the show. For closure, definitely watch the scene after the credits in the final episode. It's open ended but very satisfying in terms of the main characters' relationship. I also like it because it shows that relationships aren't the most important thing and sometimes, other aspects of your life requires more attention like family.
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Yeah Pet Girl follows the build to relationships plot, and is extremely inconclusive with where everyone is going by the end except for 2 people. (Although apparently the relationships do happen in the manga after the anime ends) Also best girl (imo) loses, which annoyed me. But it does get really feels trippy multiple times through it, and I was pretty much crying through the whole last episode. It has a lot more to take away from it then simply its romances though, which is why I say people that don't like romance animes would get a lot out of it.

In regards to Monogatari Second Season, ugh one of the arcs closer to the end was soooooooooooo sad for me. It was definitely the highlight of the entire monogatari series. Like Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari were not that sad, they had some moments, but I felt those two were more focused on the humor and supernatural stuff setting up the characters. If you watch Nekomonogatari Kuro (prequel part that tells Hanekawa's setup before Bakemonogatari) that was extremely sad, and helps setup her arcs in Second Season to be even more heartbreaking. But the entire Second Season is just like a repeated feels trip throughout all of its arcs. It really is a lot sadder than the other monogataris.

And ugh harems where the childhood friend win.....ugh hrm like there aren't even any that truly end that way, they are more technicalities (It's already hard enough to find one that even ends with a girl being picked out of the harem). The only ones I can think of are Nisekoi (because they are all childhood friends besides Tsugumi) and that nobody was chosen yet. Dragon Crisis also gets in on a technicality because the dragon girl (I forget the names atm) TECHNICALLY met the protag as a child (although I wouldn't necessarily say they were "childhood friends"). Myself; Yourself isn't really a harem (more of a triangle, but the one girl goes supportive of the other instead of going after the protag). However, everyone involved in this is also childhood friends too lol. Also it deals with some quite heavy topics so it might be difficult to get through (I was completely oblivious of what I was getting into with it besides my caution that the cover picture somewhat resembled the School Days characters lol).


Well, I'm happy I don't know who you think best girl is lol. But I hope to get a lot from its ending, because it feels deeper than romance, moreso concentrated on finding and working towards your dreams, getting rid of your self-imposed limits, etc.


Oh my, I had a feeling it would be that way, and I guess that confirms it from at least one source. But I'm looking forward to whenever I do see it, because it'll be a new feel with regards to the monogatari series.

Well, after a forum topic originally about wanting to retry Toradora because romance anime endings aren't satisfying , guess it's a hard search to try and find an anime where a girl wins and gets in the relationship, let alone what they originally were to the MC. And even though Nisekoi is hundreds of chapters long, I can still see it ending like the typical 13/25 episode romance series. I mean honestly though, how can he possibly choose between those four? I might check those other two out though, I really can't guarantee anything at the moment, since I can't even finish what I've already started. And speaking of School Days, if I got through that nightmare, I think I can handle most other things
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Ckr1tRme wrote:


Well like anything then, I'll just have to experience it myself. Anime BRs are an arm and leg though, so that is a significant statement. There's a manga for maid sama though, right? Did that 1 season cover it all? Cuz if the manga is finished, I might not mind reading it.

Well the only thing I know about Mashiro's name is Shiro; Which is the adorable little sister from No Game No Life; And they have the same VA; and Sorata's name has Sora; Sora is the older sibling figure in NGNL; and they have the same VA too = Some pretty promising chemistry.


I can't help with the manga since I've never read a manga once. I didn't know about the VAs being the same in NGNL. I should check that out. And I should clarify something I said earlier. When i said a rival for Misaki I meant a rival for her affection. Sorry about that sometimes my fingers don't get the full correspondence from my brain.


Yah, that part about Misaki confused me, because when i was searching for the voice actress of one of her friends, I ended up getting slightly spoiled of some 2nd guy being introduced who's apparently Misaki's childhood friend. And it doesn't take an anime expert to know the complications that'll bring. It's 80% of the reason I'm not motivated to continue from where i paused because love triangles piss me off more than anything, especially ones than are just forced to add needless drama. Like Valkyria Chronicle's added love triangle was the most infuriating thing, but it ended so "perfectly" that I don't even care.


And looks like I'll do my best to continue Toradora, when I get into the anime watching mood again. The relationships overall seem like a important part of the show, and I'll give Taiga the benefit of the doubt and believe that I'll warm up to her eventually, at least better than I have now.
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I don't think it's really a harem anime, but if you'd like to see the childhood friend 'win' Robotics;Notes is pretty good. Good characters and my favorite 'confession' scene in any anime, downside is that it has some weak points as far as story goes, but I found in enjoyable overall.


I actually want to watch that, just don't think it's on CR. R;N and Stein's Gate have the same composer, and it has a pretty cool VA cast. One of the cast is actually Taiga's VA as well funny enough.
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Personally, I like how the characters are fleshed out throughout the show, especially Ryuji, Ryuji's mom, and Ami (who you will see later). I can't remember exactly but I wasn't hooked on Toradora until the 4th or 5th episode. When I first started watching it, I just thought it was funny and quirky and I liked that Taiga wasn't one of those boring, super shy and submissive characters that look like they could faint at any moment. Even though the way she treats Ryuji is quite overbearing at times.

I also like the focus on family and the flaws in both Ryuji's and Taiga's home life. The reverse parental relationship between Ryuji and his mom is definitely interesting to watch. I also like how small, ordinary events, like eating dinner, in the show are shown to be something heart-warming and symbolic of something more.

The events near the end are kind of weirdly written but forgivable since I did enjoy the rest of the show. For closure, definitely watch the scene after the credits in the final episode. It's open ended but very satisfying in terms of the main characters' relationship. I also like it because it shows that relationships aren't the most important thing and sometimes, other aspects of your life requires more attention like family.


Mmm, since you're the 2nd one to also emphasize the overall characters and their relationships in the show, I'll probably head into retrying TD with that focus in mind, instead of trying to tolerate Taiga's behavior in the beginning. You are right though, she certainly isn't the archtype submissive blush machine but overbearing is still an understatement in my eyes after seeing episode 1 lol.

But it seems that there's a lot of heartfelt stuff to this show if I can make it there. I also won't worry about the weird/oddly written parts, because I find them commonplace in anime in general. It'll only bother me if they make me downright confused. And I always watch the end credits of the last episode. If nothing is happening during the ED as well, I take the time to read the comments section while the time passes.
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I say give it a go. Toradora was a show i won by chance, never saw it subbed or realised it was on CR. It was a fantastic show in that the characters were flawed, they were not 2d carbon anime copies but grew as characters. Hated Ami to begin with but she was 1st to mature into being her true self while caring for her friends.

I hope you give it a watch till the end. Worth it in my view, not many anime is based/grounded in real world logic. It makes the characters more relatable as being human, with similar problems.
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I actually liked Taiga
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