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Why is Incest Wrong?
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Incest is wrong because of a couple of reasons.

One, because society tells us it is wrong. It's cop out but it is what it is. We're all taught that you shouldn't be with people of the same blood no matter what so it's ingrained in us to feel disgust even thinking about it.

Two, because of the increase in likelihood of birth defects. One of our prime directives as a species is to repopulate the earth and in order to do that you have to have healthy babies that can continue the cycle. If you keep staying within the bloodline in order to have babies, you'll eventually get to the point where you'll ruin that bloodline and nobody wants that.

Three, because family is family. Family is the people that you're supposed to love no matter what(not like, because not everyone likes their family >.>). If you start adding sex and those feelings into the mix, you run the chance of ruining those relationships down the line and only being able to think on them with hurt feelings and possibly hate. It's not worth it.

That's my two cents anyways.


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1. That isn't a reason.

2. So should we stop people with heart defects, high likelihoods of cancer, blindness or loss of other senses, etc. from having children?

3. Again, not a reason. People ruin relationships all the time, it's their fault if they want to take the risk for something bigger than what they have.


1.yes it is. Society developed these rules for a reason and you aren't supossed to go against them without good reason. Saying "why not?" is not a good enough reason.

2. No because two people with a chance of a defect or two having kids doesn't actually increase the chances. Genetics are funny that way. But two people with a certain chance of some defect having a kid doesn't meant that kid will definitely have an increased chance. With incest the chances are much higher. So in the end we have no way of knowing what will happen if two random people have a kid. We do know what happens with incest and it's not good so thus we prevent it.



1. The punishment for blasphemy used to be death. The punishment for homosexuality used to be death. Black people used to be subjected to slavery and discrimination. Don't tell me that how society views something right now is a be all and end all, that we should just accept our current situation and let others walk over us.

2. There are things called genetic disease that are literally passed down to the host's children. Incest might make it somewhat more likely for a child to have some disease but there are cases where we let people have children when we know for a fact that child will have a problem.

Also, we let people smoke and drink when they have children, we don't advise it but it's not illegal.


1. Societal pressure is a very real thing. With right and wrong it's all subjective or how you view it yourself. So back then when homosexuality was punishable by death, it WAS wrong because they would kill you for it. Sure, you could risk it but you then also risked your life. You weighed those facts together and decided for yourself what you wanted to do which is what you would need to do today in the case of incest.

2. If you have a child and you know for a fact that having a child will give your child a defect or a disease, does that make you a terrible person? Some would agree on the premise that giving someone aids through unprotected sex without telling them makes you a terrible person. Some would disagree. I'm inclined to tell you you're a terrible person if not a selfish one. But there will be others who disagree. Again, it's all subjective. There's no real right or wrong here.

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I'm sorry but did I mention bestiality in that paragraph? I mentioned it once, you've ignored my other reasons as to why I think it's wrong.
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Hmmm I have to say it is because the communities and society said it is wrong. Well once you grow up with your sibling for a long time, Westermarck effect kicks in so you will be disgusted. As for people who still like do those sexual stuffs with their close relatives, then it is just their taste i guess.

Before other people came in with pitch forks saying Westermarck effect isn't true. Yes i am well aware that it is just a hypothetical theory, just as Sigmund "Love your mom" Freud's theories are which happen to support that people are suckers for incests.

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I'm sorry but did I mention bestiality in that paragraph? I mentioned it once, you've ignored my other reasons as to why I think it's wrong.

You think it's wrong because it is gross, both of which are subjective. I'm just focusing on what I see as potentially the most valid reason you have.
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Genetics aside, you have the risk of parents grooming their children for an incestual relationship when the child reaches legal age.


That funny because the same could be say if no allow.


Sorry what?


People of different family all ready do this with no incest relations.


Hence why its illegal for a teacher and a student to enter a relationship, the teacher is in a position of power over the student and could potentially groom the student into a relationship. If you make incest legal, how do you know the 18 year old girl who just entered a relationship with her father is doing so because shes genuinely attracted to him, or because the father told her during childhood that when she reaches 18 its her job to provide him with sex?
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I understand. However, I was only using it as an example to show that if one social boundary is broke then so can others. Maybe I should used a different analogy.
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"Wrong" is totally subjective so you have to decide that for youself. I'm personally against it but there will be people who aren't. I was just listing the reasons why most people are incapable of tolerating it.

Exactly. If you personally want to do incest that badly then just go ahead and do it and accept the conequences. There are reasons it is wrong including genetic defencts and that is a fact. if you don't care then that is your problem and that of your kids.

But that doesn't mean you have to change socital boundaries. especially not in todays world where breaking societal boundaries mostly just gets your a stern talking to. What I mean is if you did do incest Marriage is certainly a no go but you could still live together and having children might cause some legal issues (not sure about this one). But you could still do it.

But for the Good of mankind Incest should NEVER be wide spread primarily for the defect reasons so there is no need to overturn societial boundaries for it. Basically what I mean is if enough people want to commit incest to make changing the rules of society worth it we have a major problem.
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I don't really care about the birth deficiency argument as they know the risks and if they were to have a child then it's their fault if their child is like that. But is that fair on the child? Growing up to know that your parents were brother and sister?
I never said everyone would jump arms and have sex with family members, I'm saying if this breaks one major social boundary then other social boundaries can also be broken and a World without social boundaries is wrong.


First the child thing is really unfair argument. 2 genetic medicine. 3 That will no happen but will cause people to question other things. Easy This is your mom and father. The people who raise you or who are there for you and is parent figure to you is your real parent. Why learning that your mom and dad are brother and sister will be bad. If my mom and father where relate I will no think lest of them or my view will no change either.
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I'm sorry but did I mention bestiality in that paragraph? I mentioned it once, you've ignored my other reasons as to why I think it's wrong.

You think it's wrong because it is gross, both of which are subjective. I'm just focusing on what I see as potentially the most valid reason you have.


There are plenty of reasons for as to why it's wrong. There's one, a small chance of gene errors... And other things like physicle and mental errors in your children.
Posted 1/19/15

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I'm sorry but did I mention bestiality in that paragraph? I mentioned it once, you've ignored my other reasons as to why I think it's wrong.

You think it's wrong because it is gross, both of which are subjective. I'm just focusing on what I see as potentially the most valid reason you have.


There are plenty of reasons for as to why it's wrong. There's one, a small chance of gene errors... And other things like physicle and mental errors in your children.

Wouldn't those fit under 1 reason, known as birth defects? No need to you know....separate it?
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I think you're partially right with the anarchy stuff. I mean, we, as a society, need rules because we all don't have the same values and experiences, so what could be good for someone, COULD be harmful to others, but still, incest doesn't harm anyone in any way (unless it's non-consensual, aka ''Rape'' or pedophilia). What you're saying is like saying permitting gay marriages is wrong because we'll all indulge in debauchery later. People can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't harm others.
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I don't really care about the birth deficiency argument as they know the risks and if they were to have a child then it's their fault if their child is like that. But is that fair on the child? Growing up to know that your parents were brother and sister?
I never said everyone would jump arms and have sex with family members, I'm saying if this breaks one major social boundary then other social boundaries can also be broken and a World without social boundaries is wrong.


First the child thing is really unfair argument. 2 genetic medicine. 3 That will no happen but will cause people to question other things. Easy This is your mom and father. The people who raise you or who are there for you and is parent figure to you is your real parent. Why learning that your mom and dad are brother and sister will be bad. If my mom and father where relate I will no think lest of them or my view will no change either.


You're right it is an unfair argument but it doesn't make it an invalid one. The parents are making the choice to disease their child for whatever reasons they have. Regardless of reasons, it's a monstrous thing to do.
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So a lot of the reasons people are bringing up are related to defects and such but I'd like to mention this. Incest doesn't necessarily mean having children, I mean, what's wrong with 2 family members loving each other enough they want to get married? And, who are you to say they shouldn't love each other?
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Genetics aside, you have the risk of parents grooming their children for an incestual relationship when the child reaches legal age.


That funny because the same could be say if no allow.


Sorry what?


People of different family all ready do this with no incest relations.


Hence why its illegal for a teacher and a student to enter a relationship, the teacher is in a position of power over the student and could potentially groom the student into a relationship. If you make incest legal, how do you know the 18 year old girl who just entered a relationship with her father is doing so because shes genuinely attracted to him, or because the father told her during childhood that when she reaches 18 its her job to provide him with sex?

I didn't think about that one. And to anyone who wants to argue against this point. Regerdless of likely hood of it happening it's a VERY slippery slope that you cannot avoid with this kind of thing.

Also no one has provided a reasons for incest besides "why not" and there are plenty of reasons why not brought up in this thread. Basically if incest was no longer considered wrong it would bring up countless problems from geneics to this. But if it remains wrong then all that happens is those that consider it have to deal with the penalty of doing it or find someone else.

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