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I feel death penalty is perfect for only one crime, murder.
If you kill someone then you should lose your life in return.
Eye for an eye, right?
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Can we just bring back public executions?? I would pay for that.
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It shouldn't take 10 plus year to carry out a sentence. The victim or victims families deserve closer. If these people on death row were good they wouldn't have done the crime in the first place. Is our justice system perfect no but everyone gets a trial by jury and even if they lose they get a chance to appeal.
Yes I been mad at other people who did me wrong but I know better than to kill out of jealousy, or some other petty reason. I can't stand when other people bring up the criminal past. He/She had a rough life, had no guidance, was an addict. Everyone knows right from wrong if I choose to break into someone home that person would have every right to shoot me. The home owner shouldn't have to give me a warning that i'm breaking the law by being in his home without permission.

Make the death penalty simpler if people don't want them to suffer make the chems easier for the prisons to get or have the government make the chems and distribute them out to the prisons.


They have the right to appeal to former prosecuting attorneys, after a trial rigged as much as feasible to ensure conviction and overseen by a former prosecuting attorney.

Judge is having an affair with the ADA prosecuting you? To bad, still a fair trial and you didn't find out about it in time anyway.

Expert testimony given by an untrained fraud who somehow worked 30,000 hours for the prosecution a year? Still okay to carry out a death sentence. The witness can even testify again on prior cases, even though he's banned from working any new ones. Seriously lookup Steven Hayne and Michael West, they've outright been caught manufacturing evidence.

We've had a US Attorney state on the record that just because someone is innocent doesn't mean I couldn't have gotten the death penalty. As a defense of the why we should have the death penalty and ignore all the scandals with forensics labs.

No. I don't think we should have the death penalty, because I don't trust the psychos running the show with that much power.


Posted 1/20/15

dragontackle wrote:

Can we just bring back public executions?? I would pay for that.


I don't think death is a spectacle we should come to enjoy. That would lower us and make us depraved.
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Once you stop the heart or otherwise stop blood flow it's not long before hypoxia leads to unconsciousness and eventual brain death.
A couple minutes that may or may not be uncomfortable and then nothing, versus a life time with minimal freedom.

If one wants to torture them then we have to ask at what point is it just petty revenge and when is the executioner no better than the murder?
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loved your point by the way, really thought provoking.

To be honest i don't think we have asked the right question to discuss. See the death penalty is very complex as an issue. I mean nobody here thinks an innocent should die, but it does happen in the system we have right now. At the same time there are people out there that are soo destructive that death seems like the best answer, so getting rid of the Death penalty is a very complex answer. also you must consider as the person above me put into words, prison is not the rehabilitating place we imagine, but rather extended torture. that is if you consider lack of freedom, lack of any goal, and the constant brutality of other inmates against you as torture.

I would like to shrink down the issue by removing most of the complexity.

First lets remove the likely hood of a innocent before you. All crimes committed have happened and the person accused is guilty. This is fact.

Second we will be committing homicide or the act of killing a human being, not murder as we will know nothing about this person and have no reason to have a malice aforethought, if we choose the persons death.

Third we will separate the crimes so when you discuss your choice it will be on the same issue.


Crime committed? Death penalty?
Genocide of a human race yes

Serial Killings Yes

First Degree Murder Yes

Second Degree Murder Maybe i have to hear the case, though by the definition no

Manslaughter No

Justifiable Homicide No

Date rape Yes

Gang rape Yes

Spousal rape Yes

Rape of children yes

Statutory rape Depends, this one is based on age of consent, not their choices so most likely no

Prison rape Yes

War rape yes

Rape by deception yes

Corrective rape yes

Custodial rape yes

Here are some hard ones


Attempted First Degree Murder Yes

Attempted Second Degree Murder No

I think this gives us a better baseline to discuss and these are my answers if you need definitions look here

http://www.attorneys.com/homicide/what-are-the-different-types-of-homicide/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_rape

If you have extra crimes to put up add them please and i think this can get the discussion rolling.



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Posted 1/20/15 , edited 1/20/15
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Without law and order there would be anarchy.




Then Let It Burn!
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the death penalty is somethihng those who dont know better and want to feel better has interest in.

societies feelings should never decide anything when it comes to punishment, wrong reason.
we dont put people in jail or punish them to make anyone feel better, only to solve a problem, so the only arguments that should matter are those that explain what it would help to have a death penalty, havent seen any in this thread, though i may have skipped a post or two.

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I think it depends on the criminal as much as it does the crime.
jail is meant for rehabilitation and so if the criminal were deemed too far gone, then they should be treated as insane and either treated so they can be rehabilitated or if that's impossible then death is preferable to life imprisonment.
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The jews weren't recieving as much of a death penatly as much as they were just being purged.
A death penatly takes the induvidual in account, can't say the same thing for the holocaust.

That being said, I think Death Penatly's are too light a punishment for anyone.
What kind of logic is that anyway? removing someone from this earth is supposed to be punishment? it's not like they're carrying out the weight of that punishment, because they're gone the moment they're dead.
Death Penalty is backwards if you ask me, and not because it's practically playing god, but because it isn't ENOUGH of a punishment.

If death row was an actual thing I'd have a different opinion, but felonies waiting to recieve their death penalty are only waiting because of unpredictable elements, not because they're legitimately being put through torture.

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Personally it depends on the severity, but I leave that to the Jury.

In all honesty I believe it doesnt move fast enough as it has to an extremely convoluted and long process which may take years, and in the meantime taxpayer money is going into it.

The thing is if society understands the severe consequences of these actions and is public knowledge you would believe people would fear the institution and not do stupid stuff like this.

So I am Pro DP.
Posted 1/20/15
hmmm I am sorta for it but rather them rot in prison for the rest of their life.
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Depends on the crime I guess. The evidence against the person would have to be concrete too, imagine executing somebody only to find out 5 years later they were actually innocent...
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I believe it should be brought back for mass murder. Life sentences aren't long enough in the UK.

Other than that it kind of costs too much - appeals really mess up the system but that's necessary to stop the accidental deaths. I'd like it back in the form of long rope hanging rather than lethal injection but people would never accept that due to the misconceptions caused by short rope hanging. I personally think that lethal injection is flawed and if a painless death is necessary then hypoxia should be it's replacement. However, long rope hanging does well enough I think.
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Posted 1/20/15 , edited 1/20/15

AdamYZ wrote:

Depends on the crime I guess. The evidence against the person would have to be concrete too, imagine executing somebody only to find out 5 years later they were actually innocent...


has happened dozens of times in the US.
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