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Posted 1/20/15 , edited 1/20/15

stevepeet wrote:

I thought the words were "Thou shalt not kill" and not, "Thou shalt not kill....unless of course you decide that you are exempt.
In that case, just kill as you please"


"Thou shalt not kill" means "Thou shalt not murder" - killing in war, or as punishment for crime is NOT murder.

Deer: The Reason I said "I'm pro-life so I SUPPORT the death penalty" was because it does discourage criminals, thus saving lives; "originality" is not in and of itself a virtue.
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This may sound strange, but I support the death penalty because I view life as precious. I feel that certain crimes are so vile and so irreversably damaging that committing them forfeits the perpretrator's right to life.

I know that may sound scary or morally repugnant to some, but that's how I feel. I must confess that I can't articulate as to why in-depth; but it is, as I said, a feeling.
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I do not support the death penalty because death is irreversible. Killing another will not bring back victims and there's risks of miscarriages of justice where an innocent person who was presumed to be guilty has be sentenced to death only to be found innocent after execution.

I am realistic knowing that a society has to be able to afford to have a place to keep convicted killers. If they can't afford to deal with them then they'd more likely have the death penalty. That I believe is understandable.
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dougeprofile wrote:


stevepeet wrote:

I thought the words were "Thou shalt not kill" and not, "Thou shalt not kill....unless of course you decide that you are exempt.
In that case, just kill as you please"


"Thou shalt not kill" means "Thou shalt not murder" - killing in war, or as punishment for crime is NOT murder.

Deer: The Reason I said "I'm pro-life so I SUPPORT the death penalty" was because it does discourage criminals, thus saving lives; "originality" is not in and of itself a virtue.


Why rephrase "Thou shalt not kill"? Killing is killing, no matter how it's done or the circumstance. Even if it's war or a life-threatening situation, the statement stands. With that said, killing in self-defense will always be acceptable, because it's not right for a someone not looking for a fight, to die.

I just don't think the death penalty is a good enough punishment for someone who has done terrible crimes. For getting rid of the person and not spending more tax money on him/her, sure, it's efficient. But I feel it's an easy way out. I would rather see the criminal rotting in jail for the rest of his/her life and contemplating their crimes.
Posted 1/20/15
I don't believe in it.
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It should be reintroduced in the UK if you ask me. Nowadays, life does not necessarily mean life.Most of the time these people will serve less than a quarter of the time they are given in prison for various reasons. Murders, rapists, child molesters et al should all be sentenced to death by firing squad. Either that or be hung drawn & quartered. Which ever one the judge feels is going to be the more pleasurable to the victims family.
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atleap wrote:

Why rephrase "Thou shalt not kill"? Killing is killing, no matter how it's done or the circumstance. Even if it's war or a life-threatening situation, the statement stands. With that said, killing in self-defense will always be acceptable, because it's not right for a someone not looking for a fight, to die.


It's only "thou shalt not kill" in English.

"Thou shalt not murder" is the more accurate version.
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It shouldn't take 10 plus year to carry out a sentence. The victim or victims families deserve closer. If these people on death row were good they wouldn't have done the crime in the first place. Is our justice system perfect no but everyone gets a trial by jury and even if they lose they get a chance to appeal.
Yes I been mad at other people who did me wrong but I know better than to kill out of jealousy, or some other petty reason. I can't stand when other people bring up the criminal past. He/She had a rough life, had no guidance, was an addict. Everyone knows right from wrong if I choose to break into someone home that person would have every right to shoot me. The home owner shouldn't have to give me a warning that i'm breaking the law by being in his home without permission.

Make the death penalty simpler if people don't want them to suffer make the chems easier for the prisons to get or have the government make the chems and distribute them out to the prisons.


They have the right to appeal to former prosecuting attorneys, after a trial rigged as much as feasible to ensure conviction and overseen by a former prosecuting attorney.

Judge is having an affair with the ADA prosecuting you? To bad, still a fair trial and you didn't find out about it in time anyway.

Expert testimony given by an untrained fraud who somehow worked 30,000 hours for the prosecution a year? Still okay to carry out a death sentence. The witness can even testify again on prior cases, even though he's banned from working any new ones. Seriously lookup Steven Hayne and Michael West, they've outright been caught manufacturing evidence.

We've had a US Attorney state on the record that just because someone is innocent doesn't mean I couldn't have gotten the death penalty. As a defense of the why we should have the death penalty and ignore all the scandals with forensics labs.

No. I don't think we should have the death penalty, because I don't trust the psychos running the show with that much power.




While I understand they are bad prosecutors to get rid of the death penalty would only create more problems. I would support DP on prosecutors who willful sabotage evidence and intimidate witnesses just to get a conviction. While you bring out valid points what about defense attorneys? Do you think they don't know who there representing. If I was a defense attorney and my client was accuse of murder I would look at the facts, witness, and the type of person i'm representing. If he shows violent tendencies and makes threat in my presence would I really believe him to be innocent?

As for a witness who willfully lie have a harsh prison sentence with no plea deals. Just because I think I saw something I will not say I was 100% I would say I believe this is what I saw.

Like I said while no system is perfect we at least have a trial, a appeal process, and the belief your innocent until proven guilty. While in other country's you guilty till proven innocent. Ever seen a mexican jail your lucky if get a meal that not moving.
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I live in texas, we have an express lane to the chair
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Noooo, Im pretty sure that "Thou shalt not kill" means just that! "Thou shalt not kill!" Under any circumstances.

I have to say though, we made a really good job of f****** that one up didn't we?
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Posted 1/20/15
Depends on the severity and nature of the crime.
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Posted 1/20/15

stevepeet wrote:


Noooo, Im pretty sure that "Thou shalt not kill" means just that! "Thou shalt not kill!" Under any circumstances.

I have to say though, we made a really good job of f****** that one up didn't we?


The bible is a work of fiction any ways.

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tkayt wrote:
I do not support the death penalty because death is irreversible. Killing another will not bring back victims and there's risks of miscarriages of justice where an innocent person who was presumed to be guilty has be sentenced to death only to be found innocent after execution.
My thoughts exactly.
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Posted 1/20/15
Anyone who has looked at the research done on the death penalty would know that it does not deter criminals. In fact, no punishment deters criminals. What does deter criminals is the perceived likelihood of being caught. Anyone arguing otherwise is arguing from a position of ignorance.
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