Should the gray wolf be delisted from the ESA?
Posted 1/19/15
I'm torn on this. As a very passionate environmentalist, I would lean against delisting, but it's easy for me to say that because I'm completely unaffected by it right now (wolves haven't inhabited Louisiana for over four decades). I also have to acknowledge they will have to come off the endangered list at some point because their populations cannot be allowed to grow uncontrolled. Let me know what you think, especially those who live in the Rocky Mountain states where the debate is the most contentious.

Those who aren't familiar with the issue, watch this http://features.aol.com/video/fight-over-yellowstones-wolves?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00001348
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Posted 1/19/15
I was in undergrad at Wyoming in the early 90's, and this was a major hot-button topic. Though I haven't followed the progress with anything more than just a casual interest since. The romantic idealist in me would like to see the population returned to a greater portion of their original range and that would require extending protected status both in time and geography.

I understand that approach may not be in the best interest of all the affected parties.

As a side note; I was fly fishing in Yellowstone last fall, and on the far bank of the Madison there were a couple wolves. I would never have known if one of them hadn't howled. And I have to tell you; in that instant, I suddenly understood the deep fear that man has held for wolves in the past. The sound of it just cut straight into my heart, it was the most powerful thing I have ever heard. Nothing like anything else i have experienced in nature.
Posted 1/19/15

PapaNeko wrote:

1. I was in undergrad at Wyoming in the early 90's, and this was a major hot-button topic. Though I haven't followed the progress with anything more than just a casual interest since. The romantic idealist in me would like to see the population returned to a greater portion of their original range and that would require extending protected status both in time and geography.

I understand that approach may not be in the best interest of all the affected parties.

2. As a side note; I was fly fishing in Yellowstone last fall, and on the far bank of the Madison there were a couple wolves. I would never have known if one of them hadn't howled. And I have to tell you; in that instant, I suddenly understood the deep fear that man has held for wolves in the past. The sound of it just cut straight into my heart, it was the most powerful thing I have ever heard. Nothing like anything else i have experienced in nature.


1. Not a whole lot has changed since then. People are still at each others' throats over it. When I was younger, I probably would have just said keep them protected at all costs, but it's not so simple once you learn how these things work.

2. That must have been a surreal experience. I have never really understood wolf hysteria. Sure, they're fearsome predators, but attacks on people are very rare in North America (I think there have only been three recorded incidents in the last 60 years). Maybe it's because in my state there is almost universal support for a similar project to save the Louisiana black bear, which is much more dangerous than wolves are.
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PapaNeko wrote:As a side note; I was fly fishing in Yellowstone last fall, and on the far bank of the Madison there were a couple wolves. I would never have known if one of them hadn't howled. And I have to tell you; in that instant, I suddenly understood the deep fear that man has held for wolves in the past. The sound of it just cut straight into my heart, it was the most powerful thing I have ever heard. Nothing like anything else i have experienced in nature.


Yeah, man's grasp at the top of the food chain can be a bit.....weak at times.



Ahhhhh isn't it so cuteeeeeeeee?





I've had one of these damned things attack me before. But you don't know the half of it,

I was driving in my truck.




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Posted 1/20/15
Whats the ESA?
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If the wolves don't technically qualify as "endangered," then I don't believe that they should be covered by the Endangered Species Act. Also, should their population pose a threat to their territory and, by extension, themselves, allowing them to essentially implode endangers the point of trying to protect the wolves. In that event, they will need to be culled, animals distributed elsewhere, and/or have their habitat enlarged. Perhaps, though, overpopulation may be allowed to run it's course unimpeded, which comes with the risk of the eventual "crash" possibly wiping them all out, and the other wildlife taking a hit.
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