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Bikes > cars.

SAVE THE EARTH WE ONLY GET ONE


Cars are pretty damn clean you know.


Not those gas guzzlers, not at all.


Oh?

Tell me more about modern emission systems on American cars and light trucks.

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There are still cars out that are dangerous and destructive, but there's more knowledge now as to how to not make them that way then there was 20-30 years ago. Still, it's not completely fixed yet.
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There are still cars out that are dangerous and destructive, but there's more knowledge now as to how to not make them that way then there was 20-30 years ago. Still, it's not completely fixed yet.


And your point is what again?

If X = the amount of "dangerous and destructive cars from yesteryear" still on road

and Y = mileage driven

than Z = damage done.

What's z?
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This doesn't include emissions from production of said "new" car or emissions saved from still using an older one.
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And let's talk about bicycles.

Your bicycle is made where again? More than likely overseas.

Maybe by child/slave labor.

So your bicycle is shipped overseas by a ship that is burning bunker fuel. That stuff is really nasty. So it gets shipped all the way over here, then it's trucked all the way to you.

But now I feel better about myself because I'm riding a bicycle! That was created by slave/child labor and I will replace, starting the process again, in three years.

Posted 1/23/15

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AiYumega wrote:



There are still cars out that are dangerous and destructive, but there's more knowledge now as to how to not make them that way then there was 20-30 years ago. Still, it's not completely fixed yet.


And your point is what again?

If X = the amount of "dangerous and destructive cars from yesteryear" still on road

and Y = mileage driven

than Z = damage done.

What's z?



My point is riding a bike takes no gas.

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I could NEVER cycle in traffic. Did it once and almost got run over. Don't know how people do it.
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Posted 1/23/15

AiYumega wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


AiYumega wrote:



There are still cars out that are dangerous and destructive, but there's more knowledge now as to how to not make them that way then there was 20-30 years ago. Still, it's not completely fixed yet.


And your point is what again?

If X = the amount of "dangerous and destructive cars from yesteryear" still on road

and Y = mileage driven

than Z = damage done.

What's z?



My point is riding a bike takes no gas.



And you grow your own food to eat?

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If I had the space to I would absolutely do that.
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If I had the space to I would absolutely do that.


Requires fuel to get to you.

But then again, not much is grown in NYC, it's trucked and piped in. That TP you use? That's a 1500 mile trip to get to you, your food? You seem like you need organic, so depending on the crop, that's 1500, to 3500 mile plus. Those vitamins? 2775 miles.



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I just think people need to keep in mind how much we're abusing the Earth, not only through gas, but fracking, animal hunting, war, and how we can all do a little something to keep this place and all its animals and people alive and healthy.
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Biking around neighborhoods is safer.
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AiYumega wrote:

Bikes > cars.

SAVE THE EARTH WE ONLY GET ONE


That's a phenomenally generalised, idealistic statement. What about people with disabilities, or those who have to travel long distances on a regular basis? How about really young kids, or the elderly? What about people whose jobs require them to drive? I'll grant you there are times a bike could substitute a car, but not everyone can live with a bike as their only form of transport. From an economical standpoint bikes win, but from a practicality standpoint cars are necessary for plenty of people. It's not as simple as being a case of 'I don't give a shit about the Earth' for everyone.
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