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How do you feel regarding vigilante justice?
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haha wow its like you watched the movie
Posted 1/22/15 , edited 1/24/15

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symphonicecho wrote:



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haha wow its like you watched the movie


Yeah isn't it soo awesome?
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I don't believe in vigilante justice. Although certain things...have made me feel differently, at least somewhat. To give an example, I live close to Boston. The Boston bombings that happened, I thought "If some people on the streets got to the bombers before the authorities and they brutally killed them, heh, what would I care? I'd be glad that those fuckers met a bad end". Basically something like that. I really don't believe in vigilante justice, but sometimes...my beliefs on it falter? Or something like that. Something kinda similar happened recently with the terrorists in France. I thought "If the police/military kills those bastards instead of take them alive, so be it, I don't care if they die".

What I'm starting to see in myself in recent years...hatred for jihadists. I try not to hate anyone, but man am I getting real sick of the jihadists. Those evil pieces of shit are making so many people suffer so much just because of some personal beliefs they have. I'm getting so sick of those people.
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My gut opinion tells me to support them, I know the U S justice system has flaws especially when I read stories about murderers getting off with less than 5 years. I could understand the anger these families are feeling knowing someone who killed their loved ones is out.
I know to support vigilantes is to support both the good and the bad that it brings.
Groups I support
The Nigerian's fighting against Boko Haram
The Mexican's fighting against the Sinaloa , Los Zetas, and Knights templar cartel's
These are people fighting for there very lives, however saying that in America I wouldn't support this.
We are bless to not have to worry about being attack everyday, that we are allowed to carry firearms if need be, that you could say almost anything and not be killed.
In short in countries where there is a corrupt or ineffective government yes vigilante's are the people way to respond to injustice, while in more stable countries I wouldn't support this. You could vote to voice your opinion.
Posted 1/22/15 , edited 1/22/15

fafnirspikeflail wrote:
For an interesting read on this see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauche


Rather gross. Then again, I've always said the laws that protect those that cannot think clearly are good. If it was true and professionals really did see that he couldn't see right from wrong, ect --- I guess "all is well?" One can imagine me saying that while shaking my head -- legally fine though and I'd accept the judgement (again with tests)

As for the second part of your post...



fafnirspikeflail wrote:

But, in terms of vigilante justice other than "patrolling the streets" I agree with it.. If someone harmed my family, and was released by the courts or got away with his crime and was guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, I would take action. Especially if it involved my twins.



I don't think your hypothetical would be sound. It seems with that post you have planned for the what if. I think it would be counter productive, say one family member was involved in the incident -- you'd remove their second family member (you) from their life? I don't mean to have an argument over family (I love mine), but I certainly wouldn't kill for them or "what was them."


Anyways, it was quite an interesting read as you suggested. Have a nice day, ect. I respect your opinion on it, but it is also worrying.

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I'm clearly against it. I believe in rule of law (see my support for protecting those that do things while actually insane). There are laws that go after those that "take things in their own hands" and I support that too. People deserve to be tried. If they are found innocent/not guilty --- that should be the end of it (outside of the normal person doubts [like mine whenever I see the insanity defense {though if tested and proven so, I am 100% fine with it, I don't shake my head at all of those. I wasn't around for that incident, but if I heard it on the news now, and the timing, I probably wouldn't believe it. Hence head shaking. }).

Life isn't an anime - we can't take things in our own hands for justice ><...
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I support vigilante justice on certain things. If someone intentionally takes the life of someone you know, you should have the right to take theirs. If someone raped my daughter, I should have the right to castrate him.

But vigilante justice will always fail because there are simply too many stupid people out there who won't follow the right processes to ensure that the person they're going after is in fact truly guilty. If vigilante justice was allowed you would see cases like this be commonplace:

"Oh my god, you killed him!" - Citizen A

"Hell yeah I did!" - Vigilante

"Why?! What did he do?!" - Citizen B

"He raped my daughter!" - Vigilante

"What!? Where's your proof?!" - Citizen A

"He's black." - Vigilante

"...." - Citizen A, B
Posted 1/22/15
Perfectly acceptable.

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I read a news article about a father who beat up a teenage guy (really badly) after coming home to find that the teenager has been molesting his 5 years old son.

I feel empowered when reading that kind of story. Sometimes you can't wait for the laws, you just have to act on your feelings. I was like, "Good on you, dad".


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may be off topic, but when people say they want "justice", what they really mean is they want revenge. If someone truly wants justice, they must take their emotions out of it and more often than not, justice involves mercy...if i remember what i learned about in philosophy and my reading of the brothers K.

@OP vigilantes seem legit, sucks worrying about the cops though. If they (cops) turned a blind eye to it, sure why not.
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I will protect and defend what is important to me. If that means I have to become a vigilante, so be it.
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If you're going to be a vigilante in real life, you better act like there is no vigilante at all.
Don't leave any calling cards after halting a crime.
You'll be lucky doing few good jobs here and there, but sooner than later, someone would set you up [frame you] and make you the bad guy.

What was the quote again, "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

I also like this quote, no relation, (or is it?)

"But when you stand here and tell me that I've lost sight, when you, the 10-time Champion who stands for hustle, loyalty and respect; who, from Boston, Massachusetts, lives and breathes these red colors, the same colors as your beloved Red Sox, who also portray themselves as the underdog, I'm sure just like the Bruins portray themselves as the underdog. Just like the Patriots think they're the underdog! Hey, how about those Celtics? Are they the underdogs too? Here's what you've lost sight of, John, and I'm really happy that your father and your wife are sitting in the front row so they can hear it!

What you've lost sight of is what you are, and what you are is what you hate. You're the 10-time WWE Champion! You're the man! You, like the Red Sox, like Boston, are no longer the underdog! You're a dynasty. You are what you hate. You have become the New York Yankees! "
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The idea of vigilante justice sounds great because they would do things the law couldn't. However in reality, it will never work and just turn into another criminal act.

We cant all be batman
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Haha was just about to post that myself. Lucky that vigilante wasn't killed. That guy at the gun woulda been allowed to shoot him if he felt threatened.
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Vigilante is a broad term. Innocent people can get targeted, hurt or even killed just because someone accused them of something. Then there's violence junkies who want to use any excuse to commit violence against others and being a vigilante gives them their kicks.
Posted 1/23/15

Scooty-Bby wrote:

The idea of vigilante justice sounds great because they would do things the law couldn't. However in reality, it will never work and just turn into another criminal act.

We cant all be batman


you obviously never heard of Chibatman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CzHFhZFk3g
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