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I don't frequent these forums all that much, but when I do it seems like there are a lot of "Click Bait" threads. The good news is that they don't tend to be blatant spam like "You won't believe how old this person is!" but there are a lot that fit the formula of "How can you believe/not believe in [insert controversial subject]?"

I'm quite the "sucker" and struggle not to click on these whether I agree or disagree with the bait. It is usually someone trolling, but sometimes I suspect its someone that truly doesn't realize how to engage in a meaningful discussion on the matter. The most obvious is that a large, active forum is actually bad for these kinds of discussions, because if the matter was that simple, there would be little need for discussion in the first place. This means even the politely worded requests like "Why do you believe in X?" would be more suited as direct questions asked to people who hold such beliefs... or a signature so that people with that belief can simply fire off a Private Message; then if you need more information, they can give it to you without risking a bunch of arguments by members of either side behaving badly. If someone does just want to argue, you can just ignore them, and they won't drag down other discussions.

Then we get to the ones where I can't tell if it is better to assume the thread creator is attempting to troll or start a flamewar or whatever the correct terminology is... or just doesn't realize how poor a job they are doing in trying to begin a good discussion. I made sure the description indicated this thread was going to be mostly a rant and/or public service announcement, however if I am really just not getting the actual situation, go ahead and let me know. Personally, I'm also curious as to how frequently posters find themselves participating in such discussions; I'm not making the effort to turn this into some sort of scientifically sound poll, but even so I'd still just like to see if some people regularly go for the kinds of threads I'm talking about or if it is more that we all tend to succumb to the desire to say whatever on those threads and in doing so keep them going as opposed to a kind of poster or group of posters that ensure such topics quickly hit seven pages in a day or less.

Thanks for reading.
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Are you a proponent of intergalactic space travel?
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There is one user who can provide you with the picture that will summarize what you have put into so many words. He shared the poster/pic months ago on the "what's on your mind?" thread and happens to have a quote from a game as his status massage. His avi is that of a loli and he seems to be located in a place called "bite the pillow". He's also mention something about being a writer of sorts from what I can remember, he had shared info that he was busy writing a book. If the mentioned has view this post, i'd like to hear from him in regrds to this as i've been curious to find out how this is going.
I can't remember his username.
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severticas wrote:

There is one user who can provide you with the picture that will summarize what you have put into so many words. He shared the poster/pic months ago on the "what's on your mind?" thread and happens to have a quote from a game as his status massage. His avi is that of a loli and he seems to be located in a place called "bite the pillow".

I can't remember his username.


Maybe thinking of Hairbelly?

As for the topic at hand - I agree. There's lots of clickbait, or what appears to be clickbait. Sometimes stuff that looks like intentional clickbait but turns into useful discussion, and sometimes stuff that looks useful but turns into mass trolling and flamebait. It's really frustrating, both as a user and as a mod. I tend to avoid most of those types, except if I have to post because of something I did in the thread, personally. I always avoided them before I started modding.
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The thing is that the "extended discussions" forum was merged with the general.

A lot of those topics existed there and did really well as extended discussions, though they didn't garner responses as quickly.

Now that they're here, they either work, because they DO have clickbait-y titles, or they get buried.

On the other hand, the current rash of them is only a temporary thing, and are definitely trollish and originating from only a select few new users.
Posted 2/3/15

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severticas wrote:

There is one user who can provide you with the picture that will summarize what you have put into so many words. He shared the poster/pic months ago on the "what's on your mind?" thread and happens to have a quote from a game as his status massage. His avi is that of a loli and he seems to be located in a place called "bite the pillow".

I can't remember his username.


Maybe thinking of Hairbelly?
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Yes, him.

I went to sleep there. But yes, that would be the concerned. I can remember the post.
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^This guy is correct.
I'll admit it does get annoying to see, but I can't help check what it's all about. Even if they are still clickbait if I decide to comment I'll try to share my opinion, with the idea some other user reading will be able to see another side. Even on the clickbait forums I've seen some very smart people like this guy I'm quoting and BlueOni. Both these two are very smart and have interesting posts. I could care less if the OP responds to me, I just look forward to having a discussion with people like serifsansserif and BlueOni. So in a way I think click baits could lead to a good discussion. I'll admit I kind of find them fun
I shall include an example. On the Corporal Punishment thread...that never seems to die, I just happened to go back one day and see what has been posted by other users in regards to the topic. The whole thread lead to me having a discussion about Corporal Punishment with BlueOni. I could understand her views and I thought it was an interesting discussion.

One more thing. I personally think it benefits me in improving my debate skills. It probably doesn't but it has caused me to work on forming my ideas better.

I hope I made sense.
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I've actually reached the conclusion that internet discussion exists solely to make me look smart by comparison. . .

*and so far, it seems to be doing a d_mned fine job of it!
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One of the best things about the community is that conversation is as varied and spontaneous as the entertaiment media the site is built around.

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Ctonhunter wrote:


^This guy is correct.
I'll admit it does get annoying to see, but I can't help check what it's all about. Even if they are still clickbait if I decide to comment I'll try to share my opinion, with the idea some other user reading will be able to see another side. Even on the clickbait forums I've seen some very smart people like this guy I'm quoting and BlueOni. Both these two are very smart and have interesting posts. I could care less if the OP responds to me, I just look forward to having a discussion with people like serifsansserif and BlueOni. So in a way I think click baits could lead to a good discussion. I'll admit I kind of find them fun
I shall include an example. On the Corporal Punishment thread...that never seems to die, I just happened to go back one day and see what has been posted by other users in regards to the topic. The whole thread lead to me having a discussion about Corporal Punishment with BlueOni. I could understand her views and I thought it was an interesting discussion.

One more thing. I personally think it benefits me in improving my debate skills. It probably doesn't but it has caused me to work on forming my ideas better.

I hope I made sense.


Wow... Thanks.

I hope Blue reads this as well.

I didn't really delve into the Corporal Punishment one myself because most studies seem to point towards positively reinforcing good behaviour with rewards and ignoring negative behavior and results seems to be one of the most effective ways to train people and in rehabilitation it's the most effective way with the longest lasting results. I don't deny the power of the stick, but it's something that should be used incredibly sparingly.
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