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Longevity while shorter we've made many times more notable accomplishments. We're land animals and we transport a lot of material across the sea daily. We have flown without wings. We have left the atmosphere. Our machines are capable of traveling faster than any other creature. We can make heat from rocks and then use that heat to make electricity that does any number of things for us. What animal has done this?

Large population thing is just dumb.

Tools yes we make tools which will one day allow us to survive in any environment. space included. Animals survive sure but because of our tools it allows us to work 8 hours a day 5 of 7 days a week and then more than survive, we thrive. Our dependency on tools is a dependency on one of our strengths. It's like saying that if Mike Tyson couldn't punch he wouldn't be a very good boxer.

How can we say animal's thoughts are on level with humans if they haven't created a language to describe Katy Perry's performance at the superbowl which is a highly organized pastime which millions of people watched.

I doubt animals would ever think to stop reproducing to allow other creatures better success. (And that's what makes us human I guess. *Stupidity*) All creatures reproduce because that's how they succeed as lifeforms.
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Oooooh another philosophical debate, allow me to dig my teeth in...

Assuming you are you and do not believe in a deity, who is to say that everything has no value at all? If there is nobody to give something value it has none, "if a tree falls and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?" You use examples like strength, and intelligence, but one can not rightly use these to call something superior, in a humans eyes these are only useful to do what life's purpose on this Earth is (if you are really are a Darwinist than you should agree) procreate(make babbies). However in your case if there is no one to comprehend this and give it value, nothing has value.

This means that rape, murder, genocide, all of this would be fair game in your case.
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Why did you start yet ANOTHER thread about this topic? This is almost the same as the your thread about evolution vs. creationism.
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GreatLordBalzak wrote:


feynmanszombie wrote:


DesuMaiden wrote:

Unless people accept reality, I will not stop in posting about science.


I am a scientist, so hear me when I say: you are not posting about science.

Ok, so I'm a science student, but I'm in, uh, 18th grade, so I know what I'm talking about. You have some strong beliefs, and you're letting them bias your judgement. Even worse, you're being so rude and combative that even people who agree with you to any degree will shy away.

Also, I'm completely for the conservation of the earth, which I guess is your point in all this, and I'm upset that you're painting the rest of us in this ugly light. You are actively scaring neutral people away, which is exactly the opposite of convincing them. Please be nicer. Cheers.

EDIT: And here I present both proof that humans are superior to other animals, and a compelling reason for us to treat our big round home better:



Thank you for bringing some sense into this in a way I couldn't bring myself to do, kindly...




Yay! More competent people on this crap-thread!

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Humans and animals actually have a lot in common. We are animals. Just because we have complex speech and thought does not make us any less barbaric.

Still, as stated, being capable of complex thought makes us "better" than them anyway in a sense. Our brain complexity is our distinction from the rest of the mammals and the animal kingdom. We can vocalize and we can do things that they can not. Woop woop. That doesn't mean we're not cruel, ruthless and barbaric, but that's just himanity. It's the price of being animals and animals with complex thought.
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Please, beside base arguments of we are all animals theres no contest. If you think
people are no better then the rest of life on earth I think you need to open your eyes.

I think to many take for granted the most basic things we have in our lives today that
someone even 50 years ago would be blown away even more so 100+ by. But yet,
"no better then the others" comes to some peoples minds.

In the end saying things like "better" is all subjective anyways. By what measure is
one "better" then another? Apples and oranges I say, but thats just me.
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Cool story bro(again). Have fun with your bestiality
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I agree. I really don't feel like delving into all My different answers as to why it is so, IMO. But Yes, I agree.
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But... I can shoot a Bear in the face from 600 yards away?
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Oh, you're the same person that created this thread - http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-887209/what-excuse-do-you-have-for-not-believing-in-macro-evolution

Again, we don't have a natural predator. Therefore, we are, for now, a more prominent species. Even if something like Dinosaurs were to magically return (we don't have enough Oxygen, I know) we've come so advanced in terms of technology I doubt they'd even make it.
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What do you mean by superior? You mean by survival? Insects are the most successful class of animals this world has ever known. Do you honestly think humans can wipe out flies or cockroaches for good? Not going to happen. Nature finds a way somehow.
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Why post something that you think is clearly not up for debate?

Everyone already knows overpopulation is an issue, but really, what can you do about it?

And we are superior in different ways. We have evolved more to better utilize the resources of this world(Which is a good thing, except we are using too much). We have developed a creative mind that allows us to reflect on these things, make music, create art as a form of expression. Most animals have not developed out of their instinctive patterns of hunting/reproducing and protecting their habitat.

Are we better? No, that's not what I mean. But we are definitely superior in our ways. If Darwin's theory of evolution would still apply to us, then we are superior because we could easily kill off every other animal in the world, until the time when something superior to us would appear.

I think the majority of the world are well aware of the problems we are creating in this world, but with hundreds of different countries and billions of people, it's naive to think we will change overnight. But we are slowly improving ourselves, learning from mistakes and trying to do better. Most of us anyway.

But this debate is a little off because everything serves a purpose in the world. If all the insects die, we die. If all the trees die, we die. It's all connected, so it doesn't matter which animal is superior.
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atleap wrote

And yes, we can find ways to kill off insects too, if that was really our objective(release clouds of toxins over a large area).


Do that and watch our good ol' protection from UV rays* go away quicker. D: Why not just breed more birds and insect eating mammals? In fact, why not eat insects ourselves?! New thread: Why don't we eat insects to reduce their population!

Realistically, that'd cause even more problems. Bird species may die out, plants may not get pollinated correctly (in fact, the reduction of Honey Bees has caused problems as well. see documentary) and so on and so forth. I'd say the planet is ok as it is, but we could do with less humans. Maybe.

Edit: Nvm. You edited your post. I like you.
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Cero_of_Clouds wrote:


atleap wrote

And yes, we can find ways to kill off insects too, if that was really our objective(release clouds of toxins over a large area).


Do that and watch our good ol' protection from UV rays* go away quicker. D: Why not just breed more birds and insect eating mammals? In fact, why not eat insects ourselves?! New thread: Why don't we eat insects to reduce their population!

Realistically, that'd cause even more problems. Bird species may die out, plants may not get pollinated correctly (in fact, the reduction of Honey Bees has caused problems as well. see documentary) and so on and so forth. I'd say the planet is ok as it is, but we could do with less humans. Maybe.

Edit: Nvm. You edited your post. I like you.


Of course, it will be the end for us if we do, but theoretically, if we were to have a battle royale with all the animals/insects in the world, we would win. Luckily, there's no need :P

EDIT: Hah, yes I did, but I still need to stand for what I wrote
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