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Posted 2/4/15 , edited 2/4/15

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With multiple recent flash bugs and vulnerability found in the past weeks should the site ditch it and go for HTML5 .
Going with HTML5 would mean that the site would work better on mobile ( to the point of being able to view videos sort of making the Lack of HD on mobile less of an issue)


HTML5 doesn't allow you to protect your files in the same way as flash or other plug-ins does (or put DRM on your files), in other words if they hopped over to HTML5 without any Java or Flash running in the back then you'd be avail to right click on any and every video and download the video then and there... And that would piss the living crap put of licencors.

HTML5 was never intended for streaming services to use, it was suppose to make web development easier and more easy to handle on low-end devices like mobiles and tablets.

If they should change then they should go for Microsoft silverlight or something similar to that.. Or even better make their own plug-in like voddler.


Don't see how that protection affects CR, as you can already download their videos...

I mean uh..plate tectonics, cough.
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Posted 2/4/15 , edited 7/11/16

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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


_Proto_ wrote:

With multiple recent flash bugs and vulnerability found in the past weeks should the site ditch it and go for HTML5 .
Going with HTML5 would mean that the site would work better on mobile ( to the point of being able to view videos sort of making the Lack of HD on mobile less of an issue)


HTML5 doesn't allow you to protect your files in the same way as flash or other plug-ins does (or put DRM on your files), in other words if they hopped over to HTML5 without any Java or Flash running in the back then you'd be avail to right click on any and every video and download the video then and there... And that would piss the living crap put of licencors.

HTML5 was never intended for streaming services to use, it was suppose to make web development easier and more easy to handle on low-end devices like mobiles and tablets.

If they should change then they should go for Microsoft silverlight or something similar to that.. Or even better make their own plug-in like voddler.


Don't see how that protection affects CR, as you can already download their videos...

I mean uh..plate tectonics, cough.



The thing is that you need to install stuff to do that, where as if you use pure and clean HTML5 then you're just a right click away from downloading the video... And a LOOOT of people don't do the research (or know) of how to download stuff from websites. See what I'm saying? I'm saying that less people will and are downloading stuff from websites when they stay away from clean HTML5 code.


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But in all honestly, there's not a single way to protect material online or offline. Use DVD/Blu-ray and it'll get ripped in handbreak, use a website and recording/downloading software can do the job for you and if something is HDCP (High Definition Copyright Protected) then use a HDPVR and recording on another device.
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Since this is a poll, moved to Polls (Personally, I have no opinion on Flash vs other options, as the current implementation works well for me, but I could use others as easily)
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Me?
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Still trying to figure out how HTML5 can make a Crunchyroll stream faster... Does it bend time & space?
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Still trying to figure out how HTML5 can make a Crunchyroll stream faster... Does it bend time & space?


No, but it wears extra lightweight shoes.

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No, but it wears extra lightweight shoes.



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Lowlights wrote:

No, but it wears extra lightweight shoes.





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You have an app. They just need to make the fourms accessible on it and we don't need HTML5 on it. Not to mention that HTML5 is nowhere near as reliable as flash at the moment.
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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


Lowlights wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


_Proto_ wrote:

With multiple recent flash bugs and vulnerability found in the past weeks should the site ditch it and go for HTML5 .
Going with HTML5 would mean that the site would work better on mobile ( to the point of being able to view videos sort of making the Lack of HD on mobile less of an issue)


HTML5 doesn't allow you to protect your files in the same way as flash or other plug-ins does (or put DRM on your files), in other words if they hopped over to HTML5 without any Java or Flash running in the back then you'd be avail to right click on any and every video and download the video then and there... And that would piss the living crap put of licencors.

HTML5 was never intended for streaming services to use, it was suppose to make web development easier and more easy to handle on low-end devices like mobiles and tablets.

If they should change then they should go for Microsoft silverlight or something similar to that.. Or even better make their own plug-in like voddler.


Don't see how that protection affects CR, as you can already download their videos...

I mean uh..plate tectonics, cough.



The thing is that you need to install stuff to do that, where as if you use pure and clean HTML5 then you're just a right click away from downloading the video... And a LOOOT of people don't do the research (or know) of how to download stuff from websites. See what I'm saying? I'm saying that less people will and are downloading stuff from websites when they stay away from clean HTML5 code.


Off topic;
But in all honestly, there's not a single way to protect material online or offline. Use DVD/Blu-ray and it'll get ripped in handbreak, use a website and recording/downloading software can do the job for you and if something is HDCP (High Definition Copyright Protected) then use a HDPVR and recording on another device.


I know about HTML5 and how much easier it makes it make websites and how little protection the video tag has (the DRM issues) But i dont see why we cant have another option for streaming i dont think silverlight is such a good idea but ill welcome a second option

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You have an app. They just need to make the fourms accessible on it and we don't need HTML5 on it. Not to mention that HTML5 is nowhere near as reliable as flash at the moment.


now i dont know if your on android or not but the android app is worthless and really needs an update ( i know one came out a few days ago but it still doesnt really work on lollipop ) as for the ios app i cant say anything since i havent used it in the last year

As for reliability ive had more issues with flash then HTML5 in the past few weeks so yea...
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_Proto_ wrote:


aListers wrote:

You have an app. They just need to make the fourms accessible on it and we don't need HTML5 on it. Not to mention that HTML5 is nowhere near as reliable as flash at the moment.


now i dont know if your on android or not but the android app is worthless and really needs an update ( i know one came out a few days ago but it still doesnt really work on lollipop ) as for the ios app i cant say anything since i havent used it in the last year

As for reliability ive had more issues with flash then HTML5 in the past few weeks so yea...


I do use android and I have found no problems with it.
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Sadly i think most of my problems with the app are mainly caused by Android 5.0.2 not the app its self
but i still think that the UI is over due an update
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Posted 2/5/15 , edited 2/5/15

TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


serifsansserif wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


_Proto_ wrote:

With multiple recent flash bugs and vulnerability found in the past weeks should the site ditch it and go for HTML5 .
Going with HTML5 would mean that the site would work better on mobile ( to the point of being able to view videos sort of making the Lack of HD on mobile less of an issue)


HTML5 doesn't allow you to protect your files in the same way as flash or other plug-ins does (or put DRM on your files), in other words if they hopped over to HTML5 without any Java or Flash running in the back then you'd be avail to right click on any and every video and download the video then and there... And that would piss the living crap put of licencors.

HTML5 was never intended for streaming services to use, it was suppose to make web development easier and more easy to handle on low-end devices like mobiles and tablets.

If they should change then they should go for Microsoft silverlight or something similar to that.. Or even better make their own plug-in like voddler.


Netflix uses HTML5 with google Chrome's widevine.

Chromium (linux users) doesn't have it, I know this because I tried fucking around with it to make netflix play.

Silverlight is also used tho'.


LIke I said, HTML5 in of it self is unprotected and thus you'll be avail to download all videos that use a purely 100% HTML5 media player i.e the <video></video> tag in HTML5. But you can protect your video content with other plug-ins.

Also, I've not tried Netflix on any of my Linux builds yet... So I wouldn't know that


http://www.pcworld.com/article/2824623/ubuntu-linux-gets-netflix-without-weird-workarounds.html

You might have better liuck than I do..

EDIT: huh. So tyoday the chrome browser decided to install correctly and netflix is happy. O.o

(probably needed my bajillion updates.)
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