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Are All Lives Equal?
Posted 2/5/15
If their only value is to donate organs then I don't see why they should even be seen as human. They wouldn't be much more than walking storage containers. Ones with limited use. Then the problem is that they don't even have many organs they can donate since they have to be alive and the procedure can't kill them (aside from complications of course). That means their value even as a storage for spare parts goes down.
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Their lives were made valuable because of the choice they made before they died. Like when you decide to become an organ donor when you get your license. Someone who died in a car accident didn't make that decision after they died, they made their life valuable before.
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Sure.


But in reality, that's not the case at all.
Posted 2/5/15

alanshaw wrote:

Their lives were made valuable because of the choice they made before they died. Like when you decide to become an organ donor when you get your license. Someone who died in a car accident didn't make that decision after they died, they made their life valuable before.


Then their lives were made less valuable because of the choices they made. Just because something has value doesn't mean it is equally valuable.
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Discuss. I don't know, I always thought a bad person's life was of less value than a good person's life, but I don't know.


By what standard are we defining a "bad person" and a "good person" though? I'd argue all people make mistakes and act in selfish ways that may harm others. We are all capable of great good or great evil, and any person at any time can do something helpful or destructive. Even someone condemned to death for murder could have a change of heart, feel remorseful, and desire to right their wrongs if given the chance. Should we decide they have less value based on past mistakes? If so, would you judge yourself in the same manner you are judging others?

Maybe you never killed someone, but you probably wronged someone in some way by lying, cheating, or stealing, and so on. Does that mean your life has less value than someone who has not done as much harm? I think not. A life is a life. All life has inherent value. We are all equal in having been born without asking to be and in one day dying. The time we have in between is of equal value, though we may not all use it as wisely as we should.
Posted 2/5/15
In my opinion if we are going to value prisoners for their organs it should just be mandatory to harvest all of them as needed even if it would kill them. Help keep prison population low and save lives.
Posted 2/5/15

sonic720 wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Discuss. I don't know, I always thought a bad person's life was of less value than a good person's life, but I don't know.


By what standard are we defining a "bad person" and a "good person" though? I'd argue all people make mistakes and act in selfish ways that may harm others. We are all capable of great good or great evil, and any person at any time can do something helpful or destructive. Even someone condemned to death for murder could have a change of heart, feel remorseful, and desire to right their wrongs if given the chance. Should we decide they have less value based on past mistakes? If so, would you judge yourself in the same manner you are judging others?

Maybe you never killed someone, but you probably wronged someone in some way by lying, cheating, or stealing, and so on. Does that mean your life has less value than someone who has not done as much harm? I think not. A life is a life. All life has inherent value. We are all equal in having been born without asking to be and in one day dying. The time we have in between is of equal value, though we may not all use it as wisely as we should.


Your standards. As I said before, value is subjective.
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Posted 2/5/15
Everyone is equal. But some are more equal than others
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Posted 2/5/15
This is subjective. To an existentialist as myself, it seems that other people's lives are less important then your own, but I try to value other people as best I can.
Posted 2/5/15 , edited 2/5/15
I believe all life is equal and all life deserves chances and forgiveness. It may be hard for us to deal with on a moral level sometimes but at the end of the day, it's still life and everyone deserves to be loved.
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Posted 2/5/15
Heirarchal.

Lives of all living creatures<lives of animals<lives of cute and cuddly animals<lives of our pets<lives of humans

Lives of all humans<lives of your self identified groups(fellow countrymen, members of your religion, etc.)<lives of people you personally know<lives of friends and family members

Lives of friends<lives of family< lives of self and significant other<one's own life.

The only thing that complicates this is the overarching rule of:
More lives saved>saving an individual life.
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Posted 2/5/15 , edited 2/5/15

mochioa wrote:

I believe all life is equal and all life deserves chances and forgiveness. It may be hard for us to deal with on a moral level sometimes but at the end of the day, it's still life and everyone deserves to be loved.


I'm pretty sure nobody deserves anything and the default is nothing.
Posted 2/5/15 , edited 2/5/15
Lol, KLAC is ahead of the curve. KLAC for presidency. #KLAC flag
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Posted 2/5/15
"You see value is all opinion. It's subjective. What may be one person's trash could be another's treasure."
Your words sum up most the questions asked on CR.
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Posted 2/5/15

mochioa wrote:

I believe all life is equal and all life deserves chances and forgiveness. It may be hard for us to deal with on a moral level sometimes but at the end of the day, it's still life and everyone deserves to be loved.



Go "love" a child rapist.. or better yet try to get the child he/she raped to "love" them...
Not everyone deserves love. No one deserves anything they have not worked for.
I don't think the OP was talking about bibleland. We are not all Buddha or The Christus.
Everything is judged and weighed even if you don't realize it, oh yes you too do this.
Hardwired that way. To say anything less is to entertain fantasy.
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