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Do any of you know someone who is deathly afraid of chemicals (chemophobe)? Someone who would panic if you said that the water they drink contains dihydrogen monoxide (which is water by the way).

I'm a chemist and whenever I read an article about why such and such chemical is bad for you because it's used for this and that industry so that means that it'll poison you if it's in your food, I shake my head at the stupidity of the author.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/03/04/20-ingredients-to-memorize-and-avoid-in-any-food-you-consume/

This article is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It's pure fear mongering. Articles like this give chemicals and chemistry in general a bad name.

Here's an example from the article:

14. Sodium Chloride

A dash of sodium chloride, more commonly known as salt, is the culprit that the mainstream media and medical community claim we should stay away from. They’re right, but only because it’s not real salt. Common table salt (sodium chloride) has almost nothing in common with traditional rock or sea salt. If a food label lists salt, or sodium chloride as an ingredient, that’s the bad stuff and you need to avoid these foods wherever possible.

The author claims that there is a difference between sodium chloride and sea salt or rock salt. They are the same thing. Same goes for that pink Himalayan salt that people are raving about. It's sodium chloride and other trace elements with a bound impurity of iron oxide that turns it pink. Nothing special. No benefit can be gained from using it over standard table salt either. It just costs more money.



P.S. - On the note of poison. "All things are poisons, for there is nothing without poisonous qualities. It is only the dose which makes a thing poison." ― Paracelsus

Google 'water intoxication' and you'll know what I mean. Actually, let me google that for you. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=water+intoxication
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This reminds me of the time when someone at my old high school threw acid on another girl's face....hydrochloric acid. That was extremely traumatizing. I'm pretty sure there is a thread floating around somewhere.
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I'm a biochem major. I've learned I'll touch anything with adequate protection. I've managed to splash myself with acid twice, both times concentrated nitric acid. Got away with singed hair on the affected area and a little burn, largely because I usually notice fairly quickly.
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Nope, I do not. Though I knew two people who went vegan for a month and then stopped.

On the topic of water... I HATE IT. I FREAKING HATE IT. Like, I'm not even joking on this.. It's bitter... It even leaves a bitter taste in my mouth! Everyone always tells me "Well, Noodles, I don't know what's wrong with you ...but water doesn't have a taste..." Yes it does. A freaking bitter one at that.

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The only reason people tell you that is because they're trying to scare people into eating "healthier".
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This reminds me of the time when someone at my old high school threw acid on another girl's face....hydrochloric acid. That was extremely traumatizing. I'm pretty sure there is a thread floating around somewhere.


Having acid thrown on your face is never a good experience. I hope that person is not blind.

I searched for threads containing chemicals or chemical and all I got were My Chemical Romance threads
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I'm a biochem major. I've learned I'll touch anything with adequate protection. I've managed to splash myself with acid twice, both times concentrated nitric acid. Got away with singed hair on the affected area and a little burn, largely because I usually notice fairly quickly.


Acid splashes are a relativity common occurrence in my lab. Luckily they are all minor. The only chemical that I am wary of working with is hydrofluoric acid because it's a contact poison.
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KP_Wrath wrote:

I'm a biochem major. I've learned I'll touch anything with adequate protection. I've managed to splash myself with acid twice, both times concentrated nitric acid. Got away with singed hair on the affected area and a little burn, largely because I usually notice fairly quickly.


Acid splashes are a relativity common occurrence in my lab. Luckily they are all minor. The only chemical that I am wary of working with is hydrofluoric acid because it's a contact poison.


My chemistry department has a bunker for dealing with Fluorine reactions and other potentially violent reactions. It's under one end of the building, complete with blast doors for all internal exits.
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Ah, paranoia.

I don't, though I hate using chemicals for cleaning. I hate the smells they create. ESPECIALLY bleach. It gets the job done, but I have to wear a mask or somethin' for that shiz.
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Yes.


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On the topic of water... I HATE IT. I FREAKING HATE IT. Like, I'm not even joking on this.. It's bitter... It even leaves a bitter taste in my mouth! Everyone always tells me "Well, Noodles, I don't know what's wrong with you ...but water doesn't have a taste..." Yes it does. A freaking bitter one at that.


That's why I drink tea.
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Nope, I do not. Though I knew two people who went vegan for a month and then stopped.

On the topic of water... I HATE IT. I FREAKING HATE IT. Like, I'm not even joking on this.. It's bitter... It even leaves a bitter taste in my mouth! Everyone always tells me "Well, Noodles, I don't know what's wrong with you ...but water doesn't have a taste..." Yes it does. A freaking bitter one at that.

BACK ON TOPIC!

The only reason people tell you that is because they're trying to scare people into eating "healthier".


I used to live in the Midwest. The town my grandparents lived in, Mott, ND, got all their water from two different wells. The resulting color of the water was always kind of like reddish iced tea and it tasted like someone had dumped a bit of baking soda in it. They couldn't get water from the Cannonball River because there was too much pollution from the farms and ranches in the area.

The town that some of cousins live in, Glendive MT, is a little different. The water is very sour tasting and is absolutely clear. The best way to drink it was to get it as cold as possible and hold your nose while you drink it.

I lived in Bismarck,ND and the water there had only a little bit of a soda flavor (sodium bicarbonate), I imagine that all the flavors I was tasting were actually some sort of dissolved carbonate in the water... It was also very hard water that smelled a bit like chlorine when the rain overloaded the sewers and they dosed the water at the treatment plant as a precaution.

I can tell the difference between the water from the tap where I live (Vancouver, WA) and where I work (NW. Portland, OR)...

Water has flavor!

NOW people who are chemophobes.... I Only know a few who are afraid of chlorine or fluoride in the water.

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Since all things can be broken down into chemicals it's impossible to avoid them. I have allergies and some of them cause skin issues so I have to avoid harsh chemicals plus fragrances, soap etc. I keep gloves around to handle cleaning and I try to choose mild stuff. I don't have a cupboard full of different cleaners. I stick to some soap for cleaning and some bleach. When my skin isn't doing too good I'll use soapnuts instead which are an organic berry that naturally produces saponin that is good for general cleaning and laundry.

When my skin is bad even water hurts. Fruit juice acids can sting me if splashed on affected skin so can salty stuff. When I see someone blowing bubbles I have to avoid it because if one soap bubble burst on my skin there'll be rash which will be itchy and take more than two weeks sometimes months to go away.

I live in a hard water area so if you want glassware to look sparkling you need to add a drop of vinegar in the water. It doesn't taste too great, best to have it cold and drink it fast. Washing machines need to have water softeners added. I use vinegar for that too and it's great to get rid of the scale build up in a kettle.
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Yes.


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MissMagicNoodles wrote:

On the topic of water... I HATE IT. I FREAKING HATE IT. Like, I'm not even joking on this.. It's bitter... It even leaves a bitter taste in my mouth! Everyone always tells me "Well, Noodles, I don't know what's wrong with you ...but water doesn't have a taste..." Yes it does. A freaking bitter one at that.


That's why I drink tea.


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I don't especially like chemicals, but since they're in everything i ingest, probably, I obviously have to live with them. Because I'm too lazy and too cheap to cook or buy organically.
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MissMagicNoodles wrote:

Nope, I do not. Though I knew two people who went vegan for a month and then stopped.

On the topic of water... I HATE IT. I FREAKING HATE IT. Like, I'm not even joking on this.. It's bitter... It even leaves a bitter taste in my mouth! Everyone always tells me "Well, Noodles, I don't know what's wrong with you ...but water doesn't have a taste..." Yes it does. A freaking bitter one at that.

BACK ON TOPIC!

The only reason people tell you that is because they're trying to scare people into eating "healthier".


"That is the water that you serve to your players?!"
"It is imperative that, you allow me to be your waterboy!"
"You don’t hafta pay me. I’ll do it for free. Just promise me that you will never distribute the contents of that jug to any human person."


In short: "You’re, you’re, you’re drinking the wrong water!"

Different water sources have different flavors based on the mineral content. I've had a variety of spring, tap, and public well water. Some of them are terrible as you describe while others are absolutely refreshing.

Anyone saying water doesn't have flavor are either used to that one water source or have some issue with their taste buds. (I've noticed that some smokers can't tell the difference.)

Yeah, I don't really understand the chemical fear either. I also saw one person claiming a mixture they made was organic and thus it was safer; It was in no way organic... naturally occurring yes, but not organic.
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