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Posted 2/10/15 , edited 2/10/15
So, if anyone knows anything about this, I would appreciate any and all help.

First off, I'm currently trying to join the United States Air Force. I have all of my medical papers and the like are sorted out -- but the Recruiter and I hit a roadblock. When he asked me about any criminal offenses or traffic tickets, I had told him about a charge that I had been found not guilty of, and had expunged, back in May 2013.

Because of this, he said I would require a waiver and that I need to gather all court, police, and DMV records regarding to the case. He told me that I can get the papers whether they were expunged or not. But when I called the Circuit Court, the Sheriff's Office, AND my attorney for the case, they all told me the same thing: If my charge was expunged, there are no records to collect to give to my Recruiter.

What do?
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There's only one thing you can do at this point: you'll have to tell your recruiter that no documents exist, and probably provide contact information for all those offices you checked with so that he can corroborate your claim. After that you should probably be alright, but it is a bit of a pickle. Recruiting stations go through a lot of people, so this may go kind of slowly. I think you'll be okay in the end, though. At least I hope you will.
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BlueOni wrote:

There's only one thing you can do at this point: you'll have to tell your recruiter that no documents exist, and probably provide contact information for all those offices you checked with so that he can corroborate your claim. After that you should probably be alright, but it is a bit of a pickle. Recruiting stations go through a lot of people, so this may go kind of slowly. I think you'll be okay in the end, though. At least I hope you will.


Ah, I see. Thanks. Unfortunately, he had left his office before I could call him about what the Courts/Offices had told me. Though, not sure what's going to happen since he also told me that he can't send out my letter of waiver/approval without said documents attached to it.... so I feel like I may be stuck in this spot for a while.
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ParadoxSpiral wrote:

Ah, I see. Thanks. Unfortunately, he had left his office before I could call him about what the Courts/Offices had told me. Though, not sure what's going to happen since he also told me that he can't send out my letter of waiver/approval without said documents attached to it.... so I feel like I may be stuck in this spot for a while.


Waivers aren't impossible to get, but you're obviously best off not needing one. Considering there's absolutely no evidence that the incident you're talking about ever happened you might not need one after all, but if you do end up needing one I'm sure there's something the station can do for you. This can't be the first time they've run into a situation like this, and if you've been a good applicant so far (respectful of their time, prepared, interested, and are looking to go somewhere they're needing a lot of people) you should have a decent shot at getting helped through it and coming out alright.

The only way to know is to get into contact with your recruiter, and if they're busy or gone you can get an idea of when to call if you just ask the people who answer the phone. Sometimes they'll just transfer you right over, or even give you a cell phone number to try calling. Leaving messages is a good thing, recruiters are very busy people.
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Just remember military recruiters are a few steps below used car salesmen. He is your best ally in making this work. I would go to the courthouse and get the clerk of the courts to give you in writing that no records exist. We had a security guard tell of his problem. As a youth he got in trouble with officer friendly and was given a "tune-up" to make him see the error of his ways. Years pass and he applies for an armed guard position and needs his criminal records so he can be cleared to carry a firearm. So he goes to the PD station to get a copy of his resisting arrest warrant. So the woman in the records department can't find any record of it. She says,"That's strange only the chief and me have access to the record room." It seems officer friendly is now the chief and he never would do anything like that, beat a kid up no way.
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You shouldn't have told him in the first place since you had nothing to worry about.
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You shouldn't have told him in the first place since you had nothing to worry about.


I didn't have a choice. They have to know of all Law Enforcement-related things before hand, whether it be convicted, not convicted, shelved or expunged.

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Posted 2/17/15 , edited 2/17/15
Not sure what it's called in your state but there's something called a "Certificate of Actual Innocence" (it's called different things in different states but this seems to be the most common) you can get if you were found not guilty. I'd ask your lawyer specifically about this if I were you. It may just be something he never ran into before.
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neugenx wrote:

Not sure what it's called in your state but there's something called a "Certificate of Actual Innocence" (it's called different things in different states but this seems to be the most common) you can get if you were found not guilty. I'd ask your lawyer specifically about this if I were you. It may just be something he never ran into before.


Hm, I'll definitely have to look into this!! Thanks for the info
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Anytime . I hope it helps.
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