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So Just wondering because I hear a lot of people complaining about anime being cliche nowadays. Is it bad for an anime to be cliche or are people just tired of seeing the same things over and over again in different situations. It's hard to come up with new ideas and when new ideas are presented they are usually taken negatively. Personally I don't mind cliches happening but I have noticed that all of the animes right now are very similar (i.e all the battle fantasy ecchi harem) but I still enjoy them nonetheless. Just want to see your opinions on them.
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I don't think it's hard to come with new ideas. It's just called people don't know how to be original. And with teams needing to come up with new material in a short period of time... it can get panicky. But I personally don't mind cliches. However, I do agree that there is a big amount of it nowadays. While we can still have these cliches, it's always good to have other options as well.
Posted 2/10/15 , edited 2/10/15
People use the word cliche to give themselves confidence that they know what they're talking about, when they are talking shit. Well at least among teenagers. Every story will contain at least a few tropes that has been used before. It's not a bad thing. Generic is a criticism that quite frankly doesn't deserve to be a criticism. It's a whine at best over nothing. It deserves no respect most of the time as real criticism.
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Cliche means generally known, repeated strategies or scenarios. Like how a lot of romance anime will have a 'sick day' so that a character can nurse the other as part of an event.

I definitely consider something like that cliche. Not that its not still good, just done x9000 times. Its always nice when its done and theres a twist to it though. Wolfgirl&blackprince got me over and over with all the twists they put on that romcom.
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depends, tropes and cliches can be used in a way where they are easily recognized without losing any of their charm(which i think is why they are popular, in part), in other instances even a hint of a trope will blow the entire series apart.

then there is meta tropes, where older generally well known tropes are deliberately overused for some effect, kill la kill is in my eyes a good example, several of the tropes they use are used in such an absurdly obvious way that they start to feel fresh and fun.
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Posted 2/10/15 , edited 2/10/15
Everything has been done before.

Odysseus had himself a harem (and his wife a reverse harem), Oedipus was doing the incest thing, and Prometheus was stealing forbidden and alien technology, all before Japan even existed--much less those things became common anime tropes.

In other words, the question isn't weather a cliche or trope or plot outline has been used before--because, whatever you are writing, it has. The question is how well you do it. The basic forbidden lovers trope was thousands of years old when Shakespeare lived, but that doesn't mean that Romeo and Juliette lacks value.

So who cares if a cliche is used? Instead, we should ask if the author adds anything new to the story or the cliche. Was the story-telling itself creative, exciting, or beautiful in an interesting way? Were the themes and morals interesting and relevant? Were the characters engaging and believable? If a work of fiction does those things, I couldn't care less if it's cliched.
Posted 2/10/15
I guess you could say that this topic is too cliché
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Sadly it is all formula at this point do X+Y+Z and you will have a successful show, or so they think wondering why shows only go one season. Only time I enjoy it is if they actually have a decent story if not I just ignore it though a lot of them seem to fall back on formula when they try to keep the story going when they should be wrapping it up if you can't go more than 12 episodes don't force it. The classic jumping of the shark which pretty much turns me off the show.
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Don't be sad, get glad.
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Posted 2/10/15 , edited 2/10/15
Everything has been done, and if it hasn't been done, it will be done. I think the main point of cliches are the trends we see that have been used to a large scale relative to the amount of times it has been used and is being used. In other words, cliches that everyone seem to be doing at the same time are the cliches that really annoy us the most at the moment.

Examples in anime:
1) idiot protagonist
2) Adult character that looks like a child
3) rage modes of protagonist trumps all enemies
4) power of friendship *cough*cough*fairytail*cough*
5) protagonist becomes the thing he's fighting
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Shouting their attacks
- (sometimes with their loud inner voice) e.g., Kakashi (mask)
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Posted 2/10/15
I always try to avoid saying that an anime is just a carbon copy of another or a general stereotype since no two are truly the same.

All anime is, is what you take from it. If you think a show is a generic stereotype, that's all it will ever be to you.

Of course situations and plots can be similar, but the same is true with things like video games. You don't necessarily play a game because it's new or innovative, but because you find it entertaining. I find the same to be true. The more you accept an anime is what it is and stop comparing it to other shows, the more you'll be able to enjoy it.
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Posted 2/10/15
An anime with no opening/ending song?
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Posted 2/11/15
There nothing wrong with being Cliche, as long as you do it well or put some sort of new spin on it.

I think the problem people have is that it can get boring seeing the same thing over and over and being able to 'predict' whats going to happen to a certain degree.

But theres no reason something cant be cliche AND still be brilliant
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Posted 2/11/15
Dude im so over blond haired anime girls with the pony tails and the thunder act. Its done to death. I don't think its cute anymore
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