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1. As others have said, I think faster dubs are a good thing. It increases the audience (and money) for the shows. This increases revenue which makes it easier to get more anime.

2. As to why there aren't more simul-dubs, that has to do with production time. I work with a company that does different videos (mostly training) for corporations. Recording and dubbing voices takes more time than you think. Unless the dub crew is set up and working at the time of production, it would be next to impossible to release them simultaneously. The production schedule Funimation currently has for the dubs they are doing is about as good as it gets without that cooperation they had on Space Dandy.

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I'm on the negative side of things.

Because of the recent Kill la Kill release, I'm defninitally not for these speedy Dubbing practices. The dub is rushed, seemingly a direct translation of the Crunchyroll Sub's, and contains a host of poor directing choices in an attempt to rush the anime out the door soon enough that the Hype Train hadn't finished it's route and arrived at the conveniently placed station where T-Shirts and DvD's are sold.


Voice Actors need a fair bit of direction to provide solid performances.

And Translations need to be judged and translated accordingly. Some shows need a lot of localization to make them work, some need very little.


I mean, using various names in Japanese but swapping Name orders? DIDN'T YOU LISTEN TO THE DUB YOU MADE? CAN YOU NOT HEAR THE VOICE ACTORS CRINGE AS THEY SAY THE NAMES? DID YOU EVEN CARE?

What makes Anime dubbing difficult is the Voice Directors, who suck at their job.

The quality is being lost in favor of speed, that is never a good sign.
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Dubs are bad at least 90% of the time but then there are times when the dubs are way better than the subs, Welcome to the NHK, Black Lagoon for instance. I go for subs unless people tell me the dub is better then I try the dub. Best way to do it.
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Felstalker wrote:

I'm on the negative side of things.

Because of the recent Kill la Kill release, I'm defninitally not for these speedy Dubbing practices. The dub is rushed, seemingly a direct translation of the Crunchyroll Sub's, and contains a host of poor directing choices in an attempt to rush the anime out the door soon enough that the Hype Train hadn't finished it's route and arrived at the conveniently placed station where T-Shirts and DvD's are sold.


Voice Actors need a fair bit of direction to provide solid performances.

And Translations need to be judged and translated accordingly. Some shows need a lot of localization to make them work, some need very little.


I mean, using various names in Japanese but swapping Name orders? DIDN'T YOU LISTEN TO THE DUB YOU MADE? CAN YOU NOT HEAR THE VOICE ACTORS CRINGE AS THEY SAY THE NAMES? DID YOU EVEN CARE?

What makes Anime dubbing difficult is the Voice Directors, who suck at their job.

The quality is being lost in favor of speed, that is never a good sign.


There is no evidence to show the dub is worse (in your opinion) because of a faster translation.
The anime industry is expanding so there's more profit to be made it's the natural order of things dubs would be made faster
and there is no going back.
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I think one of the biggest problems is when the English voice actors are completely unable to produce the right emotion for a scene, which seems to happen quite often. I can't remember what dubbed anime I was watching recently, but the main lead's voice actor had no idea how he should be acting at any given time. Like they just gave him the lines without any kind of context, so he just guessed.

They need to be able to direct the voice actors better, and choose voice actors that fit the part. That seems to be where most dubs fail.

I just remembered what it was. It wasn't an anime, it was the Final Fantasy X-X2 vita game. The guy who voiced Tidus was so bad it gave me diabetes. He had absolutely no idea what emotion he was supposed to be experiencing through the entire game.
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Posted 2/15/15
Still won't watch dubbed.
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Makes sense that it is happening. It wasn't until relatively recently in history that Japan stopped being a closed off nation. Hence why it has taken so seemingly long for anime to become even as popular as it is today. 10-15 years ago you'd be a loser or weird. Nowadays it's "oh, you like anime? Neat. I like painting." Meaning, it is more accepted as something 'normal.' And it's currently transitioning to a common "omg, I love anime, what are your favorites?!"

Anyway, more anime exposure has been happening to the US. Plus, far more people speak Japanse now. So we have more translators. And we have a better understanding of Japanese, too. So these new translators are better at it, too.

And as our world becomes more connected, there is that need for bi-/multi-lingual people. Now, you can just speak a second language and that is your job. Many doctor offices in the US will pay a person $10-15/hr just to be fluent in both English and Spanish.
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Pretty good.
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Well, I'm still a bad weeb that can't tolerate dubs, but if this means the anime industry will keep flourishing instead of withering, sounds good to me.
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I hope the dubs are bad so I can laugh at them ananna
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I think the reason for this is that there are companies out there that are seeing a mainstream audience for anime in the west again. Back in the early 2000s when we had Dragonball Z and Gundam and everything that was showing up on Toonami, we had that massive anime boom. Companies pushed too hard though (Sunrise literally paying Cartoon Network to air the original Gundam) and what was pushed kind of flopped. Definitely scared companies, so for the last almost 10 years there's mostly just been FUNimation doing their thing.

But now Crunchyroll is gaining in popularity, Netflix and Hulu have both upped their anime game, and FUNimation began their streaming service what, two years ago? Maybe more. And Toonami has been back for a little over a year now and has gained some traction. Slowly but surely, anime is becoming more mainstream. I see Attack on Titan hoodies out and about, and even some of my coworkers have asked me if I've been watching Tokyo Ghoul when they found out I watch anime.

So with streaming being a thing, and merchanding though Crunchyroll's and Funimation's webstores, I think we're gonna see a definite mainstream anime audience. Things like Sword Art Online, Attack on Titan, and Tokyo Ghoul are going to be the new Cowboy Bebop and Trigun (though I would never compare their actual quality, I'm speaking purely on a popularity standpoint). 5 years from now people will be saying that SAO was their first anime, and that they loved Kill la Kill when it was on Toonami all that time ago. And some of them will probably peer deeper into anime as we have, and start to watch Japanese subbed simulcasts, but I think a lot of it will just be a steady mainstream audience. And with the internet being as large as it is, FUNimation is making the right move with their dubbed simulcasts. Netflix has Knights of Sidonia but it's going to need to play catch up with Hulu. Crunchyroll has it's audience now, and is only gaining in popularity. This time two years from now, we'll be seeing dubbed simulcasts for the majoriy of anime, and everything else will have at least the first dubbed volume out six months after air. All for but the most obscure of things, of course.
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15
I still remember the days when some voice actors that did dubs didn't care about acting, and editors not caring to correct them. I also remember back when dubs came on VHS with only dubbed no subbed. And lastly the sound quality was not so good back then or changed entirely.

But now a days I'm glad that we no longer have to wait 2-3 months just for 3-4eps at the low low price of just $45-60 on a dvd. And come with both options (dub-sub) and uncut. Its also good to see that the prices have dropped dramatically and we are getting (for the most part) dvds with 5-13 for around $25-30. Dubs coming faster imo is not a bad thing at all.



Lateraliss wrote:

I think one of the biggest problems is when the English voice actors are completely unable to produce the right emotion for a scene, which seems to happen quite often. I can't remember what dubbed anime I was watching recently, but the main lead's voice actor had no idea how he should be acting at any given time. Like they just gave him the lines without any kind of context, so he just guessed.

They need to be able to direct the voice actors better, and choose voice actors that fit the part. That seems to be where most dubs fail.

I just remembered what it was. It wasn't an anime, it was the Final Fantasy X-X2 vita game. The guy who voiced Tidus was so bad it gave me diabetes. He had absolutely no idea what emotion he was supposed to be experiencing through the entire game.



Though I agree in some/most aspects in what you said, but I have to ask when your judging the dub's in anime when it comes to "unable to produce the right emotion for a scene". What type of subs where you watching at the time? If it was fan subbed, then you (and others) might of picked up a bias without know it. How? well as know may or may not know, fan sub's love and I mean LOVE exaggerate emotions in its sub.

For example CAPS when they are yelling they like to use CAPS, which can (not all the time but still can) make your brain reads it as if its louder or more forceful then is really is. Same apply's for sad scenes they like to use a much softer color, some times going so far to use a very light blue or gray. Which can trigger an emotional response giving a more exaggerated emotions then whats really being shown.

Now I'm not saying your wrong nor I'm I against what you said, just thought I'd point something out about how some subs (fan subs to be more accurate) can give false feelings about the actual scene in question.
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The current crop of English voice actors (in the U.S.; I can't speak for other regions) is actually pretty good, IMO, and they have this whole thing down to a science at this point, even if there aren't very many of them. There have always been decent dubs, but I feel like they're becoming more common, now that the same bunch of people have been working on them consistently for so long. That, and they're fun people; I follow several of the VAs on Twitter, and not only are they a lot like us (they're fans of the material, too), but they love what they do, and I absolutely cannot find fault with that.
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So far I have watched Assassination Classroom / Death Parade / Kamisama Kiss Season 2 /The Rolling Girls and all are really good!

In Assassination Classroom and The Rolling Girls I actually picked up things I missed by wartching the video more!

I wont watch all the dubs ans some on FUNI wont be out until March!

When I got into anime all there was DUB. No Funimation No CR once a week so I appreciate whats going on!
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