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There are tons of mind blowing theories about the perception of the world. I've read tons of things about a multiverse
or a parallel universe. What if the universe is moving torward and will devolve into a frozen state? Or what if nothing truly existed besides what you thought in your conscience?



And one theory which is far intriguing,

Phenomenalism.

Everyone is interested in what happens to things when we aren’t looking at them. Scientists have carefully studied this problem and some of them came to a simple conclusion - they disappear. Well, not quite like this. Phenomenalist philosophers believe that objects only exist as a phenomenon of consciousness. So, your laptop is only here while you are aware of, and believe in its existence, but when you turn away from it, it ceases to exist until you or someone else interacts with it. There is no existence without perception. This is the root of phenomenalism.


Read more at: http://www.learning-mind.com/10-mind-blowing-theories-that-will-change-your-perception-of-the-world/

So, for all of you here in this community, what is your perception on this world?
Posted 2/18/15
mind blown tripppy mate
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I'm autistic, so that and that of someone who lost all sense of naivety/shelteredness by 7 years old.
Posted 2/19/15
That's some deep stuff Dylan
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I Read the article...

MAH BRAIN
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You asked for it... This is the simple version.

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What Science Does And Does Not Do


Let's say that we witness two things, A and B. B comes after A, and as far as we can tell, B is "caused" by A.

A ---> B

We confirm this by doing stuff so that whenever A happens, B seems to always happen after A. Do this a lot of times (more than a few), and this is become somewhat of a "law."

A ---> B
A ---> B
A ---> B
A ---> B
A ---> B
A ---> B
A ---> B

We soon have better ways of figuring things out (technological advances), and pretty soon we start to see that there are more "steps" that go between A and B

A ---> A1 ---> B
A ---> A1 ---> A2 ---> A3 ---> B
A ---> A1a-->A1b-->A1c-->A2a-->A2b-->A2c-->A3a-->A3b-->A3c-->B

Actually, this division can go on downwards pretty much forever, until you hit a "wall of non-explanation"...

"We have the protons and neutrons of an atom which are made up of even smaller subatomic particles, but what is holding those together? The nuclear forces should be pushing those apart... All the atoms in the universe should all be flying apart by now... Wait, we have detected some evidence that something must be holding them together. Since it sort of "glues" the subatomic particles together we'll call it GLUONS..." (hmm ok, so what makes up these "gluons?" Let's play "dissect a gluon" and see what happens next)

or

"At the base of evolution is genetic mutation, which is caused by some kind of gene damage via the collision of high-energy particles to the DNA or carcinogenic (or otherwise disruptive/distabilizing) substances to the same..." (...which goes back to "what made up those chemicals" and "what produces that high energy radiation" and the question ultimately ends up going back to the sort of stuff you see in physics, like I described earlier)


So basically, science describe things in smaller and smaller steps, and predicts how things would repeat in a more and more accurate basis, but never actually manages to explain exactly how or why any of these "smallest steps" have to happen at all. Why do anything change, at all? Divide things long enough, and you get a really small piece that you don't really have a good explanation for, other than "it looks to always goes to this next step if we have this other step before" So what?

Science describes and predicts phenomena. It never "explains" any of it.


It doesn't have to. That's actually not what science is for.


Science is about the knowledge of the physical universe. Scientists don't do metaphysics**, and they don't do "metaphysical experiments" to "test the density of a person's spirit," because there's no such thing as "metaphysical experiments."


**Metaphysics: Investigation of the overall nature of reality
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Ah Philosophy gotta love it and hate it. Phenomenalism is an intriguing theory. It's been something that I have pondered over. Though it's not one I agree with. I side more with Rationalism. While yes I have no way of knowing if my computer still exists if I turn away and not think about it, but to believe it exists keeps me sane. When I look at my computer I can see it and when I think about it I have thought of it's existence. Therefore I must come to the conclusion that my computer exists, even when I am not looking or thinking about it.

I'm guessing that Plato and Logos is referring to Platonism....eh I do not like this theory and have done some research into this theory for my Philosophy class. I really do not agree with any of the theories that are mentioned. I do want to do more research on Eternalism. Might come back and edit my post later discussing why I do not like any of the theories, but need to research them a tad more first.
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Do we exist? Are we really here? Are we actually reading this? Are you all a figment of my imagination? I guess that means I created manga and anime.

IS ANIME REAL OR ARE WE JUST NOT CONCENTRATING ENOUGH TO MAKE IT REAL?!
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Posted 2/19/15

Icarusgamer98 wrote:

My perception is very deep dark crap. If I told everyone, I'd make them uncomfortable.

Let me hear it.
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nanikore2 wrote:
"We have the protons and neutrons of an atom which are made up of even smaller subatomic particles, but what is holding those together? The nuclear forces should be pushing those apart... "


It's the electromagnetic force that pushes them apart--the (strong) nuclear force holds them together. The gluon is the strong nuclear force's particle.

Just had to correct that...
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I would have to say I believe quite strongly in Solipsism...so I guess that makes everything else part of my imagination though. Phenomenalism is another belief that I hold though...since about two weeks ago when someone brought it up.
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The real question here is that why can't we really remember anything from when we were little, as in toddler, or baby. You want to know why? Well that's simple. We're all made in factories, and everything about what your parents experienced, are all just their imagination and delusions. The governtment brainwashed and planted chips into them, making them think that you were born from the mothers womb. All lies. LIEEEEEESSS!!!!
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Posted 2/21/15 , edited 2/21/15

Kaeru69 wrote:

The real question here is that why can't we really remember anything from when we were little, as in toddler, or baby. You want to know why? Well that's simple. We're all made in factories, and everything about what your parents experienced, are all just their imagination and delusions. The governtment brainwashed and planted chips into them, making them think that you were born from the mothers womb. All lies. LIEEEEEESSS!!!!


So that must mean that life is all one giant...conspiracy...by the N.H.K.
Posted 2/21/15

Kaeru69 wrote:

The real question here is that why can't we really remember anything from when we were little, as in toddler, or baby. You want to know why? Well that's simple. We're all made in factories, and everything about what your parents experienced, are all just their imagination and delusions. The governtment brainwashed and planted chips into them, making them think that you were born from the mothers womb. All lies. LIEEEEEESSS!!!!


lolol.
... but what if you can remember but you can't?
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I think our "experience" of the world is simply the world being filtered through our senses. We can't truly perceive the "real" world. We can't perceive things that our senses cannot, but this does not necessarily mean there is nothing beyond our senses. In fact, there ARE things beyond our senses. We already know there are colors we can't see, phenomena we can't measure or feel, etc.

Human interactions and experience of the world is akin to that of a person groping and feeling a veiled statue in the dark. You only know what it feels like and what the general shape is, but you can never lift the veil and turn on the lights to perceive how, exactly, it really is. You can make deductions based on what you CAN sense, like deductions about the size of the statue and the temperature of the material.
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