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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15
I think I need to split this up into catagories.

Much-loved or liked anime I thought were average:

Spice and Wolf: I could never get into the economic / trading / currency aspect of it. I liked it best when it was Holo and Lawrence interacting and bickering, but not when they go on about the different types of coins. I would've prefered it if it were a bit more like Kino's Journey, where it was more about the places they go, the various people they meat, and their relationship growing as they go. I haven't seen season two yet, so maybe it gets better.

Bakuman: I like the stuff dealing with the manga industry and the relationship between the two main leads, but it's all a little too "shounen-y". I get that that's the idea, it's just not for me. If it was just about the manga industry without all the rivals and over-the-top personalities, I would've liked it a lot better. Also, I have issues with the romance subplot. I never watched past season one on this either, and I honestly don't care that much to.

Ano Hana: I like the story, and it has good intentions, I just thought it was a bit too melodramatic, especially towards the end, and some parts were just unintentionally hilarious. I would've liked it if they toned it down on the cheesiness a bit, and maybe cut it down to 6 episodes or just one feature-length movie (which they did, and I haven't seen yet.), then I would've found it more effective.

Kids on the Slope: I just found it forgettable. Nothing really wrong with it, just a typical slice-of-life drama with not a whole lot standing out other than the music.

Schoo Rumble: There's some very funny moments and characters, but it's mixed in with a lot of frustrating moments where you wanna smack them in the head.

Akira: I think it's a fun psychological sci-fi action thriller, but I never found the deep, philosophical elements or thought-provoking messages to be very interesting, as they just seem to throw them at you in the last act. I respect it, but I don't really praise it as a masterpiece. Similar with the first Ghost in the Shell movie.

Anime that's hated or disliked that I found to be just okay:

Guilty Crown: I admitt, I do enjoy making fun of it, but I never found it to be as bad as most people say it is.

Dance in the Vampire Bund: I haven't read the manga, and from what I heard this isn't very faithful, but on its own I think it's an interesting enough vampire story.

Umineko no Naku Koro ni: Yeah, not as good as Higurashi, but I liked it just fine. I did like the characters, and enjoyed the creatively greusome death scenes.

(For DitVB and Umineko, please don't lecture me on how different or better the source material is, because I frankly don't care.)

Anime that is split between people who either love it or hate it that I find alright:

Sword Art Online: I don't think it's one of the best anime ever or consider it even as one of my favorites, nor do I think it's the worst anime ever (Hell no.), but I find it entertaining enough. I acknowledge the flaws people point out, they just don't bother me like it does so many people. If I'm bored, I wouldn't mind putting this on in the background. I do actually love the second season, though.
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15

KarenAraragi wrote:

So how much a series need to sell before it maybe is considered for a season 2 ?

As noted, 3K is generally considered as "OK" sales. That number hasn't typically been enough for another series, however, as more often than not, sequel series have lower sales (just as sales usually decline with later volumes).

Not quite a year ago, hatguy12 ran the numbers on what series got sequels for releases over a period of 2 years, and in summary, it came out as follows.

Sales range
0000–4000
4000–8000
8000+
all

% with sequels
10%
35%
55%
24%







As you can see, the numbers indicate that even very good sales don't guarantee a sequel.

I can think of one series that had very good sales (averaging over 10K) and apparently original material remaining, and another that had great sales (averaging over 21K for the first series, over 20K for the second) and remaining material, but both with no sequel as of more than 2 years later.

On the flip side, I can also point to at least one series that had sales just above 2.2K for the second series (and only just above 3K for the first), but still got a third series 2 years later.

All three titles in the above paragraphs are on CR, by the way.
Posted 2/23/15

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KarenAraragi wrote:

So how much a series need to sell before it maybe is considered for a season 2 ?

As noted, 3K is generally considered as "OK" sales. That number hasn't typically been enough for another series, however, as more often than not, sequel series have lower sales (just as sales usually decline with later volumes).

Not quite a year ago, hatguy12 ran the numbers on what series got sequels for releases over a period of 2 years, and in summary, it came out as follows.

Sales range
0000–4000
4000–8000
8000+
all

% with sequels
10%
35%
55%
24%







As you can see, the numbers indicate that even very good sales don't guarantee a sequel.

I can think of one series that had very good sales (averaging over 10K) and apparently original material remaining, and another that had great sales (averaging over 21K for the first series, over 20K for the second) and remaining material, but both with no sequel as of more than 2 years later.

On the flip side, I can also point to at least one series that had sales just above 2.2K for the second series (and only just above 3K for the first), but still got a third series 2 years later.

All three titles in the above paragraphs are on CR, by the way.


Thank for the info.
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GayAsianBoy wrote:

yona of the dawn: simple, basic story and characters. predictable. everything is spelled out for you.


it's true, that's why i stopped reading the manga but i've thoroughly enjoyed the anime. the guys are deliciously hot, and it is really funny.



Hak is the only dreamy guy for me... the other male characters act like babies... ain't nobody got time for walking/talking babies.

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Anime I consider to be average:

Strike the Blood
Tasogare Otome x Amnesia - The ending ruined it.
Sword Art Online - We learned nothing meaningful about digital isolation from this.
Brynhildr in the Darkness - Just another harem with a rushed ending.
Witch Craft Works
Mouretsu Pirates - Exceptional beginning quickly descended into mediocrity.
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BlazingRagnarok wrote:

Anything that doesn't wow me and isn't offensively bad. I guess defining a series as average is difficult because, unlike loving or hating an anime, being average, for me, is based on a lack of emotion rather than a particularly strong one.


This precisely. I couldn't list for you the anime I consider average because unless I just watched it, I've already forgotten it. I remember the shows I love and I remember the shows I really dislike. Average anime entertains me enough for the moment, but once the moment is gone I don't think about it anymore. Any show that I could talk about at length is either above or below average.
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One I feel really comes to mind, for people who like the genre its in, is Air. I dont see many people say they did not like it, I see people who really like it, but most people find it to be about average or overall just not great.
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My official description for Average anime in my reviews:

"5 out of 10. Not great. Not terrible. A ho hum title that isn't for everybody. Easy sell for niche fans; hard sell for anyone else."

Series I would lump in this category: Tenjou Tenge, Ore no Imo, Nisemonogatari, Lucky Star, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

A lot of moe will tend to fall into this category.
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Right now, Absolute Duo, World Break, and Unlimited Fafnir are average... Maybe below average? Free! was average to me as well. (Yeah, I said it.)
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If you ask, what anime do I consider average, then I guess it would be .hack//Sign. The music is likeable, but this prequel is kinda bad compared to the games that took place after this show.
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Sword Art Online - Had potential but I don't know what happened. It got rather dull. But I will still continue to watch it.

Say I Love You - I felt like we got nowhere but its pretty okay. Probably below average, but average enough.

And usually the very popular ones (i.e Naruto, Fairy Tail, One Piece) I mean they are good in their own sense but those fillers just kill it for me. I dropped Fairy Tail cause it was getting ridiculous. I'll probably come back when its the Tartarus Arc



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I don't consider Durarara or Baccano above average at all, the plot structure is wack in both of those shows. Where's the rising action, climax or resolution supposed to be?
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Kaze no Stigma

Has a story set up for forgiveness, and redemption but wastes it mostly on episodic adventures that don't really go anywhere. The characters were essentially stock (Kazuma Yagami being the aloof cool guy, Ayano Kannagi being textbook tsundere etc.), the been-there-done-that comedy, and the animation is nothing special outside the SFX.

Sword Art Online

Entertaining but it doesn't hold up nearly as well when put under scrutiny.

Inuyasha

Was great at first but becomes a drag as it goes along and proves Takahashi's style doesn't work for a plot-driven story.

Elfen Lied

Uses shock value and gratuitous violence to make up for barebones storytelling and largely unlikable cast. Has a nice soundtrack and good artwork (on a technical standpoint).

Bleach

Boring. That's all I have to say.
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