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it's daunting, isn't it? to think that nothing awaits you after the end of your life; that all you do in this life will mean absolutely nothing, you will be forgotten in the midst of history and nobody will remember you've ever existed.

I can understand why some people would easily buy into that something is waiting for me at the end of my life mentality, and justice will be served to "bad" people in some other place burning with fire. It gives them comfort or something to know that there's this "creator" waiting for them... acknowledging their existence... it tickles their vanity.


But for me, as daunting as it is... I accept reality... not going to delude myself into thinking something is waiting for me, when my logic dictates that there is going to be nothing.



For a moment there I thought the thread was only going to be about what each person believes, and not what each person's assumptions are regarding the contents of other people's beliefs
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To me, the fact that the death or alteration of parts of the brain alter the person themselves (i.e. they aren't just trapped in a body; they themselves change) shows that consciousness is entirely dependent on the brain. A soul would be completely superfluous. Surely, you've heard of people who have an accident and their personalities change completely, or they lose their language-processing skills, or so on. The brain in necessary for those things, so how would they remain once the brain is gone? If there were a soul on top of that, wouldn't we just be emotionless, thoughtless, languageless non-beings without the brain?

I think it is nothingness, like others have said: that we cease to be. An alternative I have, though, is that we might just repeat our lives exactly as we live them, due to the cyclical nature of time. I don't have any ground for that, though, like I do for my denial of the soul and afterlife.

Not sure how coherent I am, given how late it is here. I think I made sense, though.
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That is interesting Schmooples I have never thought of that before
Posted 4/9/15 , edited 4/9/15

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There really isn't anything that proves there is no afterlife or there is.

Right now it's just wishful thinking.


If you can't prove it then it might as well not exist and you should stop believing it because for all you know it was made up by one dude and then everyone agreed because they were all ignorant. There is nothing to prove that anything exists past death so there is absolutely no reasonable explanation as to why someone would think there is something.


I think you're jumping to conclusions , not being able to prove something doesn't mean it does not exist. It simply means that maybe there are mysteries that cannot yet be explained. Perhaps we are not meant to understand.

I would explain faith, but lets let wikipedia do it instead!


Faith is defined as belief, confidence or trust in a person, object, religion, idea or view despite the absence of proof.[1] Faith does not involve the abandonment of reason, but acknowledges more or less consciously the fact that a proof is not possible in a given context. Faith can show up as a simple tenor in a decision, as confident diligence or fanatic zealotry.


The other reasonable explanation as to why someone would think there is something is they were raised that way?
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Damn, this topic makes me depressed and cynical. I have a big "question mark" in that department, but I'd rather there be something. Well, personally, I'd shoot for becoming a ghost/poltergeist, which is sometimes equated to someone/something not entirely moving on. It tickles my imagination and humor. I like the thought of scaring the crap out of people for centuries.
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The last theory I heard that gave me hope is: "The Universe is more than the "Big Bang" and it might include multiple realities that preclude there being only one answer. The answer can change the reality of the question, tossing linear logic onto its head. We will never know which is correct so make the choice for yourself and don't force your choice on others. Let the Universe be what it will be and discover more of it."
Posted 4/9/15

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GayAsianBoy wrote:

it's daunting, isn't it? to think that nothing awaits you after the end of your life; that all you do in this life will mean absolutely nothing, you will be forgotten in the midst of history and nobody will remember you've ever existed.

I can understand why some people would easily buy into that something is waiting for me at the end of my life mentality, and justice will be served to "bad" people in some other place burning with fire. It gives them comfort or something to know that there's this "creator" waiting for them... acknowledging their existence... it tickles their vanity.


But for me, as daunting as it is... I accept reality... not going to delude myself into thinking something is waiting for me, when my logic dictates that there is going to be nothing.



For a moment there I thought the thread was only going to be about what each person believes, and not what each person's assumptions are regarding the contents of other people's beliefs




well, if you read my post by itself, it makes 0 sense.

but if you read the posts above mine... it ties in with the conversation...... at that point in time.
Posted 4/9/15
Unfortunately I believe after death is just nothingness. Which honestly, is the scariest thing ever. Maybe there is peace in that nothingness though.
Posted 4/9/15
The mistake I see is ppl not keeping their options open in case they're wrong. Its one thing to stand by one's convictions, but to die and find out you fucked yourself for all eternity ..

.. we find out oblivion isn't as scary as hell.
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That which was us ends the energy and matter that we once were go on to be other things.

Initially worm food, but in time the atoms and molecules that once were part of you will become a million other things just as they were before they became you.

I guess its a extremely secular version of reincarnation.
Posted 4/9/15

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That which was us ends the energy and matter that we once were go on to be other things.

Initially worm food, but in time the atoms and molecules that once were part of you will become a million other things just as they were before they became you.

I guess its a extremely secular version of reincarnation.


And the soul?^^
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dsjb wrote:

That which was us ends the energy and matter that we once were go on to be other things.

Initially worm food, but in time the atoms and molecules that once were part of you will become a million other things just as they were before they became you.

I guess its a extremely secular version of reincarnation.


And the soul?^^


I'm afraid I have yet to find a reason to believe I have one of those. If such a thing exists and a part of me that is unique to me continues after I die then the only reasonable position I feel I can take lacking other information is to say I don't know.

Well I suppose I should clarify, I came to the conclusion that I had no reason to believe that I did have a soul, I did in fact believe I did for a considerable period of my life.
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Never seen much reason to care about the afterlife. No way of knowing what comes after death till I'm dead, and at that point it's too late to change anything. Besides, if it turned out there is nothing after death, it isn't like I'd be around anymore to care, so why worry about it now?
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nanikore2 wrote:

For a moment there I thought the thread was only going to be about what each person believes, and not what each person's assumptions are regarding the contents of other people's beliefs




well, if you read my post by itself, it makes 0 sense.

but if you read the posts above mine... it ties in with the conversation...... at that point in time.


Oh yes. Like I've said, for a moment I thought it's going to be only regarding respective beliefs and not assumptions regarding others' beliefs. I was expecting too much.
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I doubt there's anything after death. We just cease to exist and others take our places.
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