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Posted 2/23/15

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The pack mentality eats stuff up. If enough people feel that disliking something makes them feel superior then it does not matter how much fo the point they miss. It's kind of like people who hate the New York Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys, some people like to buck the trend. That happens enough times and suddenly something that isn't so bad is trashed by a larger number of people because it is the in thing to do.


Sports is about the only subject where this applies in such a black and white fashion, this is a terrible example in this case.


I disagree. It is still the group mentality unless something really is awful which according to many in this thread this is not.
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You know, I think I'm starting to see Bless' point about authorial intent being irrelevant. I haven't completely embraced the idea, but I'm starting to see where that's coming from.
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You know, I think I'm starting to see Bless' point about authorial intent being irrelevant. I haven't completely embraced the idea, but I'm starting to see where that's coming from.


It is true that people will make their own judgement about the work for themselves, regardless of how it's meant to be portrayed. I can make up symbolic semblances in the most ecchi of shows as well. If it becomes a popular trend for the most vocal of watchers for said show, then it will be deemed actuality for those who want to conform to that belief.
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Posted 2/23/15

BlueOni wrote:

You know, I think I'm starting to see Bless' point about authorial intent being irrelevant. I haven't completely embraced the idea, but I'm starting to see where that's coming from.




I mean,I could type out a proper response, but that is basically what that concept of authors intent being meaningless comes down to.


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Well, with me I see an intense and well-constructed story in the second half when it really takes off. It's a totally awesome show like many others are saying, but it has a couple of flaws that keep it from masterpiece status. First is the lack of direction in the beginning and while it's still nice to watch, I was not quite sure what was trying to be accomplished with it. Of course, that was answered later on, and then some. The other problem is the animation. Everybody is entitled to their opinions like others say, and that's how I feel about this.
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Posted 2/23/15
Honestly the first couple of episodes seemed like filler episodes where she fights one club leader each episode, but around the second half of the season it picks up getting more deep within the story and the symbolism of clothing. It's just the first couple of episodes may have put people off, but it's a great watch. But that's just my opinion on it.
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15

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I also read an article on how "Studio Trigger saved anime." Don't kid yourself.


That may be a little far-fetched but KLK is good shit.
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Posted 2/23/15

BlueOni wrote:

You know, I think I'm starting to see Bless' point about authorial intent being irrelevant. I haven't completely embraced the idea, but I'm starting to see where that's coming from.


If I'm understanding this right it's not so much the idea that the Author's intent is irrelevant, but rather the Author's interpretation of their work does not trump anyone else's. This is basically a Reader Response approach, it's a school of literary and by extension fictional criticism which focuses on the various responses and interpretations people have of a given work. Essentially what it boils down to is that the content of the work matters more than what the author intended the content to be. People will view that content differently, and so Reader Response criticism denies that there exists an objectively correct interpretation of a given work.

At the same time though it gives the text any number of subjective truths. The text has no defined meaning until the reader interacts with it and forms an interpretation. This should not however be read as the person simply projecting themselves onto the work. A valid reading is something created by synthesis between the reader and the work they've read. Thus while the novel's meaning is subjective if it's going to be taken seriously it has to have some basis in the text's content. By the same token the book itself doesn't have any essential meaning unless it is interacted with. For the reader, viewer etc this is when it is read, the author has their reading set when they conceptualize of a work and actually write it. Thus it ultimately boils down to the idea that no matter what the work people are going to read it very differently, and none of these various interpretations, including the author's, is objectively true. One of the primary advantages of this theory is that it allows various viewpoints to come to light about the material, and allows people to further their own understanding of the text by critically examining what others have said about it.

For a more formal explanation I'll leave this here: http://bcs.bedfordstmartins.com/virtualit/poetry/critical_define/crit_reader.html

At the same time I'm arguing this though, I think it's wrong to say that the author's interpretation isn't special in some sense. While it may not be supreme with regards to the meaning of the work, their point of view is what generates the content in the first place which while it can be viewed in any number of ways may narrow the number of ways in which it can be credibly interpreted.
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Posted 2/23/15
I invite someone to make a thread about how Final Fantasy 8 is overrated. It's the same premise; pretending that anyone needs to justify why they like anything.
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Posted 2/23/15

GoldTStar wrote:


BlueOni wrote:

You know, I think I'm starting to see Bless' point about authorial intent being irrelevant. I haven't completely embraced the idea, but I'm starting to see where that's coming from.


It is true that people will make their own judgement about the work for themselves, regardless of how it's meant to be portrayed. I can make up symbolic semblances in the most ecchi of shows as well. If it becomes a popular trend for the most vocal of watchers for said show, then it will be deemed actuality for those who want to conform to that belief.


100% the point I was making as well. Completely agree with you.
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if you have to make this thread, you wouldn't understand no matter what we told you.

Watched it numerous times, and i can tell you that even my first time through. The fanservice is apparent but completely gets erased once the insane action sequences start. The characters are great, the story especially the latter half really takes offf. But overall The animation in klk is above just about everything out there currently. At least until trigger releases something new.

Ya you can go on about sexism blah blah blah, but the intensity and scale of the show is what makes it. It's what draws me in and doesn't let go until the last minute. Then slaps me again and throws me into space.


I was at a con recently and they were showing klk in one of the movie rooms. Some guy was spouting loudly "i dont understand why is that guy flying across the schoolyard. why does she have scissor for a sword! Why does she have jet packs out of her shoulders and she uses her scissor as a tennis racquet. Why is mako both a liquid and a solid at the same time. You can't explain things to people who don't open their minds.


Ya its not for everybody but Again if you have to ask, you wouldn't understand anyway.

Posted 2/23/15
Dropped it after the second episode the Series wasn't engaging to me neither the Characters.. I don't get why all the fuss about it I see nothing interesting about Kill la Kill plus the fan service takes to much of the Series.
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Posted 2/23/15
This thread made me feel like it was wrong to enjoy it for the fanservice and action, without thinking about the ''deep'' meaning in this show...
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Posted 2/23/15
I want to make a thread like this for shows like Love Live! It still baffles me to see the mindless drones eat up those music and "cute" "little" girls. In before a fan screams "They are fighting for their dreams, blah blah blah". Weirdos.
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Posted 2/23/15
From my perspective, Kill La Kill is one of those (mindless) action anime that people were tooting for just to spite the Attack on Titan hype train. I remember for a period that I could not hear anything about AoT without hearing about what KLK does better than it - which was only limited to consistent action and fanservice.
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