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Why are People So Ungrateful to Fate Stay Night?
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Posted 2/23/15
People weren't expecting Stay Night and Zero to be this different. You watch/read one, you might expect the same thing with the other one in the franchise. Then you add in Fate/Kaleid into the mix...
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15

AzazelOfNexium wrote:

the original FSN, the animation sucks and is atrocious.

Fate Zero is better, its better in animation and in plot/atmosphere.

The visual novel FSN is exceptional, but the anime is filled with terrible animation and way too much slice of life scenes.

Fate Zero objectively, is better. Its a better stand alone show.

FSN the VN is probably one of the best VN ever made, however, the anime adaption... leaves alot to be desired..


Clarification: are you talking about the 2006 F/SN, or the newer 2014 UBW F/SN?


Shwuishu wrote:

People weren't expecting Stay Night and Zero to be this different. You watch/read one, you might expect the same thing with the other one in the franchise. Then you add in Fate/Kaleid into the mix...


Fate/Kaleid is awesome crazy fun, but shouldn't really be seen as really being super cannon to the rest of Fate/.
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15
I know it's a bad choice of words on the part of the OP but I don't have to be "grateful" about anything related to the Fate series.
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Posted 2/23/15

i0un wrote:

The first fate stay night was awful. I tried watching it. Big mistake. You have to be a complete fool to believe that FSN 2006 is better than zero just because it came first. It's not even relevant. The whole franchise has been kept afloat through games and visual novels up until Ufotable and Urobochi decided to grace it with their infinite awesomeness.


We're talking about the the current adaptation of UBW and not the 2006 version of Fate.
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Posted 2/23/15
There's nothing wrong with not liking one series or having issues with it, but liking a series that spawned from it better. People don't have to feel "grateful" for it.
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15


Which one do you think? >_> pretty sure unlimited budget works does not constitute as "atrocious animation".

Its also done by unfotable so it lacks most of the shit slice of life garbage.
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Posted 2/23/15
I don't know anything about the new FATE series.... but I did love Fate Stay Night when it was released in 2006. Totally fell in love with Saber at that time, which is why I utterly hate Shirou. I never played the Game so I'm not really going to compare it.

I admit that FSN was confusing at times, but I was also glad I had to guess the servant's real name and who their Masters were. Fate/Zero you already know who the servants already.

I have to agree that F/Z has a better graphics, well, it's possible that it's newer as well,

Somehow reading comments from other members makes me wonder why I never picked up F/Z. Saber/Shirou pair in FSN was really bad for me. hehe
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Posted 2/23/15
The first season wasn't that great, Fate Zero was awesome. Yes i do know the LN; but let's face it, it wasn't well done.
UBW is doing what FSN should have done (even with the limited tech of that time). I suspect they just didn't realize what they were dealing with, and probably thought it wasn't going to be big.
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I don't disrespect F/SN (except the Fate route,fuck that boring storyline) I just think Zero is better as it does the grail war thing better.

Also Grail War? Not really a definition of a war. More like a battle royale really. But i guess Nasu didn't like the name Grail Royale as it sounded like a strip club.
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Posted 2/23/15
I have to thank the 06 anime for being my entry to the series, so I have that bias right off the bat.

I do have to admit that on a styling I do like Fate/Zero's 'zoomed out' focus (all characters get some amount of time in the spotlight) over FSN's 'zoomed in' focus (only the main characters are given time in the spotlight). The 06 anime does somewhat touch on this issue by actually giving a support/secondary character some form of closure as well as giving time to some other antagonists.

Shirou vs Kiritsugu as better MC, to me is moot as Saber is where my attention is drawn in both series. Though I do have more annoyance/aggravation with Kiritsugu for certain things he does.

All this said, I still hold both series highly and rather dislike the idea that you have to choose one series over the other. Each time a new series comes out its praised as the best of the best, right now its UBW's time in that spot until Heaven's Feel ova's come out anyway.
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Despite FSN came first, the storytelling in FZ is far better. It learned from the mistakes of its predecessor. Plus, it has more character and is story/world driven, compared to the "Uh oh, another embarrassing, harem-like situation for Shirou~" story in FSN. (I know that FSN isn't like that entirely, but damn it... It sure feels like to 60-70% of the time.)

I never enjoyed Saber sleeping most of the time in FSN and Shirou screaming "SABAA!" every friggin' time... Makes great drinking games though.
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15
I only read the Fate series Visual Novels, so I know nothing of Fate/zero and fate stay night anime.
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Posted 2/23/15
I really liked the Fate S/N UBW and Fate/Zero. Both are really great and I can't wait for the rest of the episodes of UBW. I just watched the Fate S/N 2006 as well but it was not that great compared to the other two. I read the VN as well and is much better than anime. The main reason could be the animation of the fights, i know it was done in 2006 but still....Well atleast i liked Shiro X Saber.
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Posted 2/23/15
I thought Fate Zero came before FSN.

I like both anyways.
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Posted 2/23/15 , edited 2/23/15
Are we talking about the anime adaptation?

Because the Studio Deen Fate/Stay Night anime wasn't very good, and from what I heard wasn't even a good adaptation. While it did came first, Fate/Zero was the first Fate anime that was actually, well, good.
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