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Art

[ahrt]
noun
1. the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.

2. the class of objects subject to aesthetic criteria; works of art collectively, as paintings, sculptures, or drawings: a museum of art; an art collection.
See fine art, commercial art.

3. a field, genre, or category of art:
"Dance is an art."

4. the fine arts collectively, often excluding architecture:
"Art and architecture."

5. any field using the skills or techniques of art: advertising art; industrial art.

6. a branch of learning or university study, especially one of the fine arts or the humanities, as music, philosophy, or literature: She was adept at the arts of music and painting;

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What do you guys think?

This is 100% subjective so there's no right or wrong answer. I'm just interested what you think art is. Does it have to be beautiful or appealing to the eyes? Does it have to be something beyond the ordinary?
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Posted 2/24/15
Seems like music is left out of this definition of art.
Personally I, like many other, believe that music is another art form. For something to be art, you need to be conveying a message to your audience. Music is just noise, but arranged in such a way that it becomes meaningful and, "more than ordinary significance."

Generally I believe that art is anything that makes something greater than itself.
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I agree that music is art as well. But what about the difference between classical piano pieces and....say....EDM music?

What about those people who spout things like "rap is spoken word poetry" and stuff like that who only rap about money, drugs, fast cars, and loose women?
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Morbidhanson wrote:

I agree that music is art as well. But what about the difference between classical piano pieces and....say....EDM music?

What about those people who spout things like "rap is spoken word poetry" and stuff like that who only rap about money, drugs, fast cars, and loose women?


bt's this binary universe....
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If art is defined to be beautiful and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then what people consider art is just another opinion that people can agree or disagree on. Of course, people don't have to believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In fact, when it comes to opinions of your work, a famous artist's negative opinion (saying it's not art) might matter more to you than your peer's positive opinion (saying it is art).

Also, I'm pretty sure people still find beauty in grotesque and scary works. It just has to have meaning. Not a great example, but tragedy writings are still considered a beauty of an art form despite the death of the characters, brutal or not. It's all about the events that led to the deaths, and how they were executed. When it comes to strange art, I think some people might need a little convincing or a back story of the art, because all they have is their first impression and beauty isn't just found in what we see or hear.

In the end I'm just trying to say that it's anybody's opinion, and the things I find to be art just happen to be beautiful.
Posted 2/24/15
no, i'm very inspired by Picasso's paintings... and his paintings are not necessarily "beautiful"... but they are captivating (to me, at least). I love the bold colours and the bold black lines.



This is my fanart inspired by Picasso's style and bold colouring...


GayAsianBoy wrote:

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Does it have to be beautiful or appealing to the eyes(senses)? Does it have to be something beyond the ordinary?


I think art cannot be ordinary, because that means that it is just normal and has no special quality. Think white noise or static, or a single tone by itself like A, a lone color like red or blue...something plain, void of emotion.

It is the combination of the the ordinary that gives it something special and unique. And the combinations could be endless.

I believe as long as there is emotion and the emotion can be interpreted then it has to potential to be beautiful.

In all it's various forms -- writing, painting, drawing, music composing, culinary arts, scents.
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Art is strange. It can be beautiful and ugly.

I like the idea behind Tracey Emin's My Bed but I don't think it's beautiful.
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Morbidhanson wrote:

I agree that music is art as well. But what about the difference between classical piano pieces and....say....EDM music?

What about those people who spout things like "rap is spoken word poetry" and stuff like that who only rap about money, drugs, fast cars, and loose women?


I would say it's just more proof that music is art since it's all open to interpretation.

Not all paintings may be considered art and the same can be applied to music like rap. Everybody has their preferences and those who enjoy rap like that can definitely appreciate it as an art (while if rap is not to your tastes, it may seem like trash. Sound familiar?). As for the difference between classical piano pieces and EDM, the difference lies in the medium if they're both to be considered art. Both can convey emotions such as anger, confusion, happiness, etc so I personally believe that both have the possibility to be art.

Maybe in an alternate universe EDM came before classical pianists and EDM is widely recognized as true art music while classical is some new age garbage :P. Art, like everything else, ultimately comes down the individuals views and preferences.
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I've always wondered if pcb would every be considered artistic, I always thought they look cool, since I was a little kid. I was always mesmerized by them.

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There is no given criteria for art; as long as it was made more to be viewed, or have some kind of deeper meaning to it, it's art.

... or something like that. I did take an art class in college, but that was a while ago.
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Well... yes, it does have to be beautiful and beyond ordinary significance to be considered art.

When people are painting their military models, they often go for a dirty and greased-up look on their tanks and camouflaged infantry. Because they find those aesthetics pleasing. And it has beyond ordinary significance (we gather that the soldiers are on campaign).

Anyway, art depends a lot on context. A dirty, ragged aesthetic isn't that pleasing in most contexts.
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Anyone can create a form of "art", the question of whether it's acceptable / passable or not is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone perceives things differently and has differing interests. A piece that someone loves is likely also a piece that someone despises, in almost any art form. Musical, literary, physical art, all are different forms of "art", and are all considered "art", technically, but whether or not someone perceives them as true "art" or not is in the eye of the beholder.
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I don't consider it beautiful but it is art..... I print this kind of stuff allllllll day long....
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We should bear in mind that the perception of "ordinary" differs from person to person. One can waltz past a cement wall every day for twenty years, hardly paying attention, and then suddenly notice and become engrossed in the tiny details of the wall. At that moment, the cement, for all intents and purposes, may become special in that person's mind.

Therefore, my answer to the OP is; yes and no. The old adage is correct; "beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
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