Revolutionary Girl Utena ending
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Sooo I just finished this mindfuck of an anime. While there's much to be confused about, I'll stick with one detail about the ending.

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There is a LOT of symbolism in this show. I've watched it 3 times and it's still hard to explain everything, especially the ending. I don't know if this will help, but here's an entire episode thread about this http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=64009.
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narfington wrote:

Sooo I just finished this mindfuck of an anime. While there's much to be confused about, I'll stick with one detail about the ending.

Compared to the ending of the movie, the ending of the series was relatively clear and straightforward.

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TheAncientOne wrote:


narfington wrote:

Sooo I just finished this mindfuck of an anime. While there's much to be confused about, I'll stick with one detail about the ending.

Compared to the ending of the movie, the ending of the series was relatively clear and straightforward.



Believe it or not, I found the ending of the movie (ridiculous as it was) easier to understand than the ending of the series.
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Here's how I interpreted the ending, but you have to go back a few episodes:



Sorry about the ramble but it's an interesting subject, thanks for the time.
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narfington wrote:

Sooo I just finished this mindfuck of an anime. While there's much to be confused about, I'll stick with one detail about the ending.



Good stuff, eh?

Part of me wants to say, "No, you're not supposed to know," but I think you can. Akio is blinded by his own narrow worldview (as are the student of the school over which he presides). Utena violates everything Akio thinks he understands about the world, so to him she is "no longer part of this world." But Anthy, on the other hand, has been liberated from the "system" (as you might call it) by Utena's sacrifice and so can see a world where Utena exists.

I've only watched the ending once myself, but I've always had the impression that the swords were both literal and metaphorical at the exact same time. Mutually exclusive and yet still mutually inclusive.

I'd also note that Anthy has been pierced by the swords many, many times, yet she is still not dead. So why should Utena die? She is certainly no more fragile than Anthy.

There are a lot of ways to read the ending. What I think is certain is that Utena is both metaphorically and literally alive.
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iblessall wrote:

Good stuff, eh?

Part of me wants to say, "No, you're not supposed to know," but I think you can. Akio is blinded by his own narrow worldview (as are the student of the school over which he presides). Utena violates everything Akio thinks he understands about the world, so to him she is "no longer part of this world." But Anthy, on the other hand, has been liberated from the "system" (as you might call it) by Utena's sacrifice and so can see a world where Utena exists.

I've only watched the ending once myself, but I've always had the impression that the swords were both literal and metaphorical at the exact same time. Mutually exclusive and yet still mutually inclusive.

I'd also note that Anthy has been pierced by the swords many, many times, yet she is still not dead. So why should Utena die? She is certainly no more fragile than Anthy.

There are a lot of ways to read the ending. What I think is certain is that Utena is both metaphorically and literally alive.

Sweet, we're on the same page.

I've only seen it once as well.

Anthy leaving to find Utena reminded me of Pilgrim's Progress after Christian made it to the Celestial City and then later his wife and family followed. Utena "won through" and essentially vanished/ascended/moved on to a different world where that battle has been won. That was my impression, although I'd have to rewatch the last cour to be more confident in it.

The idea that each person has to earn their own way in a sense, and that Utena couldn't just simply fix that world for everyone, also reminds me of the individual journeys in Pilgrim's Progress or Hinds' Feet on High Places. But I think it might also be similar to Buddhism in the sense of attaining personal enlightenment and the idea of karmic rebirth.


TheAncientOne wrote:

Compared to the ending of the movie, the ending of the series was relatively clear and straightforward.

I watched that immediately after the series thinking it was going to be a sort of epilogue.

Instead I got naked lesbian car racing against a city on tank treads. Can't complain.
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Insomnist wrote:
Sweet, we're on the same page.

The only other thing I might add is that some people have posited that the entire academy is a metaphor for adolescence—like the physical structures of the school equate to that period of life.

In which case, Utena has "grown up" and thus left school.
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