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Post Reply Jap is just an abbreviation
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Posted 2/28/15 , edited 2/28/15
I will say that while "Jap" is literally an abbreviation of Japanese, today it's meaning is, and only is derogatory. Let's be honest, when we first used the term, nobody our age knew that "Jap" was used as the old name for Boondocks Road. We either thought it was an abbreviation or an ethnic slur. There's literally no excuse to use it now, considering the term was tainted.

I'm half Japanese and I wasn't born when the term was first used to be offensive, so it doesn't offend me as much. It's not a scar branded by war like it is to others. Plus, I don't like debating with people about these matters, so I never try to correct them. I do however, have family who lived during World War II, who were both forced into internment camps here, and died as citizens of Hiroshima. They would find the term offensive, so I'd appreciate it if people didn't use it.

I'd also like to say that my late coach for a Japanese League I played in, served for America during World War II in the 442nd Infantry Regiment. He fought for America despite having his family in internment camps. You can't say it's fair to throw out "Jap" when there were people like him fighting for his country and family. It's disrespectful.

Still, I'm not about forcing beliefs onto people. I just don't find it politically correct in any context other than literally defining it.



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Posted 2/28/15

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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

It's not the word, it's the context.
What makes a word racist is when it's used in a derogatory way towards a particular race.
This isn't really something that can be argued against.


Oh god, where were you when we had that thread about the Washington Redskins? I ask this because, this (^) sir is perhaps the best statement I've seen.


Probably off drinking tea somewhere.
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Posted 2/28/15
Why not just be right and say Japanese not that hard or if your lazy JP?
Jap... might as well just call'em yellowman... This aint 1900 baby.
Posted 2/28/15 , edited 2/28/15
Context is everything, however those with fragile egos will take offense to anything no matter how trivial.
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People complaining about Jap/Nip being a racial slur are just looking for a fight.
Its like saying Mex is a racial slur.
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Posted 2/28/15 , edited 2/28/15
Context is not everything. It's a big part, but it is not 100%.

Being willfully ignorant of the history and insisting the word only means what you say it means is, well....not very smart or logical. Think about it. "N**ger" is just a word so black people shouldn't be offended by it. Does that make any practical sense? Is it worth doing? Until one can use a word without evoking its history, it remains anchored by that history. I never use that abbreviation for that reason. What you gain by using a slur as an abbreviation is not worth what you save by not using it. Namely, the time required to type 5 letters (even less than 6) in exchange for your dignity, as people call you out repeatedly for your callous use of the word. You don't gain anything, actually. You don't get your point across since people are preoccupied with how you just used a slur, you've actually just wasted time by not conveying anything. You lose.

Its meaning as an ethnic slur is decreasing somewhat today, but I still don't like how horribly lazy people in general are becoming with words. I use the whole damn word properly unless an abbreviation is absolutely necessary (eg. when writing timed concept essays and grammar/spelling don't matter to the grader or when writing personal outlines for something).

Words are not just words. If they were, then words would be completely meaningless. They are not. It is meaning that gives words their worth. The least you can do is have some reverence for the language that you use. If you don't even respect your own f***ing language, why should other people care about what you think of the meaning of words?
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Posted 2/28/15

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What you gain by using a slur as an abbreviation is not worth what you save by not using it. Namely, the time required to type 6 letters in exchange for your dignity
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Posted 2/28/15
Japanese isn't even that long a word people. ARE YOU THAT LAZY?!


Look at it this way. Mac and Mic are offensive to Irishmen and Scottish men, so why not Jap?
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It has a negative history, I imagine it would be the same calling a black guy the N word, right? Are people so lazy they cant just type out Japanese?
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I used to use the word a lot but not to describe a person. Few years back I was taking Japanese class, and some of my friends would ask what was my schedule. And saying the full word Japanese seemed way too long. (I'm kind of lazy) So I just said, "Jap class until 5." It's just "spur of the moment" thing.
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Honestly, would you call am American an Ame? A Canadian a Can? A Mexican a Mex? A Brazilian a Bra?

So why does it make sense to call a Japanese person a Jap? There's no reason what-so-ever to justify it gramatically or socially.
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Posted 3/1/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Japanese isn't even that long a word people. ARE YOU THAT LAZY?!


Look at it this way. Mac and Mic are offensive to Irishmen and Scottish men, so why not Jap?



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I find offence to the word "Jap" if its used as a turn down. Other then that idc lol
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