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I had a long post but it's irrelevant. My concise point is the guy in the shorts went way overboard. Not only did he physically assault the racist pos (pushing him) but then like a little bit** he sucker punches him while he is walking out. It's easy to say 'he deserved it' or it was 'justified' but this is not the way to respond to things like this.

Where is the delineation?

In regards to the emotional vs physical abuse... I am not going to go there. It's very difficult to quantify emotional abuse and I was never a victim so I am not going to speak to that. I am not sure about where you comment about the police getting there in time, trusting the police / the government are coming from. I agree, just don't know what your talking about in this case.
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wow that guy won biggest cunt of the year... cheers to the guy who punched the cunt in the head though
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Good thing I'm moving to Australia. Wait for me! I'll speak up!
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I'm going to agree with fate.
Even the police are only allowed to use the minimum amount of force needed for a given situation and it's not the customer's job to decide who is and isn't allowed inside the restaurant.
Posted 3/2/15

blind_fate wrote:

I had a long post but it's irrelevant. My concise point is the guy in the shorts went way overboard. Not only did he physically assault the racist pos (pushing him) but then like a little bit** he sucker punches him while he is walking out. It's easy to say 'he deserved it' or it was 'justified' but this is not the way to respond to things like this.

Where is the delineation?

In regards to the emotional vs physical abuse... I am not going to go there. It's very difficult to quantify emotional abuse and I was never a victim so I am not going to speak to that. I am not sure about where you comment about the police getting there in time, trusting the police / the government are coming from. I agree, just don't know what your talking about in this case.


saying derogatory things to someone can psychologically damage them permanently. school children who were bullied in high school and had NO help are more likely to be unemployed in life, have social anxiety etc. words can make someone who is prone to suicide commit suicide. what i'm getting at is... what if one of the staffs were prone to suicide? would you act on the situation quickly or would you rather wait for the police?

what if the victim was a small child? would you still wait?

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this world revolves around majority's rule. You can set a constitution, but if the majority of people doesn't agree with it, then even a constitution can change. that's what i'm trying to get at.

if the majority doesn't agree with something, then there's going to be protests, revolutions etc. Law isn't always right...
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Posted 3/2/15 , edited 3/2/15

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dougeprofile wrote:

Things have vastly improved in this country - kicking the racist out of the store is a satisfyingly good story. I'm proud to be an American.



What does a racist getting kicked out of a Hungery Jack in Australia have to do with being proud your an American?


I said it was a satisfying story; it reminded me that the improvement of attitudes in this country doesn't get near enough attention - that is one of the things that makes me proud to be an American ...not to sound rude.
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I'm going to agree with fate.
Even the police are only allowed to use the minimum amount of force needed for a given situation and it's not the customer's job to decide who is and isn't allowed inside the restaurant.


the job of the police and the public arent the same here though.

the police is there to maintain order and the word of law,
the people is there to reinforce what they think is right and wrong.
so even if the methods differ and the latter is more violent then that doesnt neccesarily connect to how police has to behave while on duty.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:



I'm going to agree with fate.
Even the police are only allowed to use the minimum amount of force needed for a given situation and it's not the customer's job to decide who is and isn't allowed inside the restaurant.


the job of the police and the public arent the same here though.

the police is there to maintain order and the word of law,
the people is there to reinforce what they think is right and wrong.
so even if the methods differ and the latter is more violent then that doesnt neccesarily connect to how police has to behave while on duty.


What?
The only people on duty there were paid to sell food. They would have their own "house rules" which they can enforce (but didn't).
and the violence does connect to the police because it's illegal and the evidence is on camera.
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Posted 3/2/15

Sir_jamesalot wrote:


oodain wrote:


Sir_jamesalot wrote:



I'm going to agree with fate.
Even the police are only allowed to use the minimum amount of force needed for a given situation and it's not the customer's job to decide who is and isn't allowed inside the restaurant.


the job of the police and the public arent the same here though.

the police is there to maintain order and the word of law,
the people is there to reinforce what they think is right and wrong.
so even if the methods differ and the latter is more violent then that doesnt neccesarily connect to how police has to behave while on duty.


What?
The only people on duty there were paid to sell food. They would have their own "house rules" which they can enforce (but didn't).
and the violence does connect to the police because it's illegal and the evidence is on camera.


i am not saying whether any of this is right or not.

but the police ideally has the intention and motivation to keep up law and order, the public does not necessarily, many agree with the laws so they follow them, but plenty, if not all people break one law or another, their intentions are different, that is my point, using the word job was a poor choice though.

my third sentence was to highlight that you cannot use what the police does as a guideline for what the public should do, they have different authority and intention.

i never said there was no connection to the police anywhere in the situation at all, nor did i say anything about who should or shouldn't act on what.

personally i wouldn't have hit the bastard, had i worked there i would have had him banned from the premises, but what i personally believe is right or wrong doesn't have much to do with my original point.
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Posted 3/2/15

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blind_fate wrote:

I had a long post but it's irrelevant. My concise point is the guy in the shorts went way overboard. Not only did he physically assault the racist pos (pushing him) but then like a little bit** he sucker punches him while he is walking out. It's easy to say 'he deserved it' or it was 'justified' but this is not the way to respond to things like this.

Where is the delineation?

In regards to the emotional vs physical abuse... I am not going to go there. It's very difficult to quantify emotional abuse and I was never a victim so I am not going to speak to that. I am not sure about where you comment about the police getting there in time, trusting the police / the government are coming from. I agree, just don't know what your talking about in this case.


saying derogatory things to someone can psychologically damage them permanently. school children who were bullied in high school and had NO help are more likely to be unemployed in life, have social anxiety etc. words can make someone who is prone to suicide commit suicide. what i'm getting at is... what if one of the staffs were prone to suicide? would you act on the situation quickly or would you rather wait for the police?

what if the victim was a small child? would you still wait?

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this world revolves around majority's rule. You can set a constitution, but if the majority of people doesn't agree with it, then even a constitution can change. that's what i'm trying to get at.

if the majority doesn't agree with something, then there's going to be protests, revolutions etc. Law isn't always right...


I am not discounting the fact the verbal abuse can cause those things. But if someone committed suicide because someone said racist things to them then that person truly wasn't mentally / emotionally equipped to operate in society, period. What if it wasn't such an obvious thing like in this case? Then people can arbitrarily attack people that say things that offend them as long as the majority there agree?

You seem to have conflicting view points with verbal abuse / majority rules (justifying actions taken against the racist) and it's pretty clear you are taking this stance because you agree with their choice. What happens when that majority is doing things that you don't agree with?

Secondly, using examples of children being repeatedly tormented and a random stranger going on a rant are really two different things all together. Judging from your previous posts I would have expected more / better from you man. I guess this is just s sensitive topic for you or something. And again, watching a person verbally abuse a small child is a completely different scenario that what played out...and no, you still don't have the right to attack the person physically for it.

My point still stands... there are proper and improper reactions things. Physically assaulting someone for saying something you find offensive is not a proper reaction, regardless of what they say means to you personally. Using the 'majority' as your justification for this action is nothing more than mob rule. We have enough of that shit in this world.

Anyways, it's been nice chatting. Thanks again for the topic.
Posted 3/2/15 , edited 3/2/15
Ah well just do the obvious, take out your phone and record.

It's always in the original post.

And bravo Blind_Faith.
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Posted 3/2/15 , edited 3/2/15
The man made enough of a disturbance to warrant action on the part of a good Samaritan for the safety of the staff and patrons, and the amount of force used was perfectly acceptable for completing that purpose. The offender is now facing prosecution for disorderly conduct (a reasonable charge) and is out of jail on bail.

Well, we'll see what happens. He has none of my sympathy, that's for sure. And if he really has connections to the motorcycle gang that he was saying he'd bring back, I expect he may have some uglier items in his background which will make this little freakout much more painful for him.

Edit: Actually, in retrospect the smack to the back of his head was unnecessary and the good Samaritan may (I repeat, may) have acted prematurely.
Posted 3/3/15
Do white people make better cheeseburgers?

I'd definitely prefer a Japanese person make my sushi over a white man anyday.
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Posted 3/3/15

LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:


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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

Reminds me of how people avoid McDonalds run by Mexicans/Blacks and go to the ones in the wealthier neighborhoods that are run by whites.
Nope, that's just you.


Happens here all the time, different states are different.


True, it does actually happen.
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Sucker punches are for bitches.

"Sticks and stones will break my bones
But words will never harm me."
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