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Reincarnation--- redirecting from "old soul"
Posted 3/1/15 , edited 3/2/15
I'm definitely not an expert on buddhist, hindu, or any other spiritual/religious subject matter as it pertains to them specifically -- so I won't pretend to be. However I'm very curious if there are any experts here on Crunchyroll willing to discuss their knowledge and impart some insightfulness

Please you are free to express dissent or disapproval but please be civil and not excessively troll OP or the thread
Say your piece and any proof you have against what you believe is nonsense, DON'T be nasty !

Anyhow -- whatever you think, just don't make it personal

From a personal standpoint, I'm essentially on the fence about it. Truthfully, I don't know what I believe. But, I am open to the idea somewhat, and with the so-called concept of "old souls" and having been called that, I'm more open-minded to the idea that maybe we're recycled spirits (LOL!)

As a hopeless romantic I can make some splendid twists to this on paper.

A N Y W A Y !


Who believes in it? Who does not? Who doesn't know? Who cares?

Have fun and discuss civilly! ^_-


Please bear in mind I'm not good at this.
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I got this, this time. I promise.

I'm not religious and in general, don't really know how reincarnation is supposed to work, so I'm obviously not an expert. I do however, find myself wondering what happens to us after we go. It's just too weird to imagine myself rotting in the ground. I wouldn't really be bothered if that's how it actually ends though.

On a different post, I did say if I were to be reincarnated, I'd want to be a house cat haha.

At my Japanese grandmother's funeral, the Buddhist priest chanted parts of a sutra so her spirit would not return if her name were to be mentioned. She was also given a new name (part of their spirit not returning thing). I think that's how it worked. I've only been to two Buddhist funerals, and it's hard to focus on everything thats going on. That's all I know about spiritual Buddhism stuff.

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Well, I am an old soul, so it isn't as much as a belief but a certainty for me.

As for religion, does it really matter? I gave up on trying to explain any the crazy stuff I have seen long ago.

I imagine it is difficult for other people to understand what it's like, having knowledge you never gotten, or having a strong sense of intuition bordering premonition.
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when u die, u don actually dieee. u bcome ant eater...
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I do like to think there is reincarnation but I've been kind of mixed about it for a long time.
Most people like to think there is but they are mixing up their religious views with their mythological views and cultural views and so on....

As far as "old souls" go, in the context of reincarnation, I like to think there are people like that. Thought up a little story to go along with it or at least the beginnings of one. I might actually think about it more now...

One might make an argument that a person with a large amount of common sense could be reincarnated...

One of the things that bothered me about reincarnation, years ago when people seemed more into it than now, (from my perspective), they would find out that they were someone really great in a past life.... That just seems so utterly obtuse, not everyone can be Napoleon or Moses or Gandhi...
I do remember this test you could take that would use questions and some sort of numerology to determine if you had been reincarnated. It was actually a bit more convincing because of the simple fact that it wouldn't try and tell you what individual you were. You would be given more of an idea of the kind of person you might have been. The test determined that I was previously a Japanese woman living in the 1200's and I was rather poor... That was something that actually made a little bit of sense to me.... Being Marco Polo or Ayn Rand was just a bit too ridiculous...
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Reminds me of World Break: Aria of Curse for a Holy Swordsman


Is that what you'd be referring to as an old soul?

Sorry I don't know much about reincarnation or old soul or anything of the sort.

I'm open to the idea though. Like really open, let me join you.
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When you die, you become an organism based on how good/bad you were your previous life. Crooks get turned into roaches in the next life and whatnot, as punishment before being turned back into a human again. It is an eternal loop of suffering and death. In order to escape the samsara, you have to attain enlightenment while in the form of a human. What happens after you are no longer reincarnated? I'm not sure. Some say you become a god or a buddha. Others say you just enter a state of eternal nothingness or peace. I'm not sure how much time elapses between each instance of rebirth.

It's definitely an interesting belief. There are also a bunch of superstitions surrounding this. Birthmarks are said to be in the area where you suffered a fatal injury in your previous life, and there have been a few creepy and unexplained accounts of very young kids who knew exactly where an undiscovered body was, who claim it was their previous body. At least one was able to describe in detail his previous life and locate the body as well.

I don't seriously believe in reincarnation but I think religious concepts like this are very interesting.

http://listverse.com/2013/10/21/10-interesting-cases-of-supposed-reincarnation/
Posted 3/2/15
When you die you become nothing. Like you were before you were born. Nothingness, no consciousnesses. Honestly people who believe in all of that are just trying to get past the hopeless fact that there isn't anything after death. It's kind of depressing.
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Reincarnation would make sense to me, if we remembered our former lives, but as it stands the idea doesn't hold much water for me on a religious front or on a logical front. Does believing in a doctrine of reincarnation help one escape the cycle and transcend past it to Nirvana? It seems to me a believer in reincarnation is better off not believing it, so they might put all their effort into this life because it would be the only chance they get.

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One life, then comes judgment. The "untouchable" class in India goes through a lot of hardship because of their status causing many of them to embrace Christianity.
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people in buddhism have a completely different belief than mainstream religions.

their main goal is to no longer "live". for them, to live means to "suffer". humans are above animals according to them, we are more luxurious and we can think for ourselves. they believe if you are greedy as a human, you'll be reborn as a pig in the next life, etc... or if you're evil, you're born as a snake.

if you've done good deeds as a human, you might become an angel in your next life.


But essentially, angels, humans or animals... all of them are still "suffering" because they are still living.


You want to achieve what is called "nirvana" or the state of nothingness. And in order to do that, you have to let go of everything you desire.
The person who invented Buddhism... went and meditate in a forest, and didn't eat until his death. He used to be a wealthy prince, had a wife etc. But he gave up all of his wealth, status and family, to achieve "nirvana".

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My opinion: you expect me to believe all this? it isn't consistent... isn't wanting to go to "nirvana" a desire in itself? just seems contradictory, imo.

I don't believe in any religion; in the end, they're just.... decorations of words... whoever can twist and make those words appear more intelligent/convincing, they are the winner.


They can't convince me, because the only objective thing for me in this universe is science and mathematics... i don't like believing in things that can't be proven/replicated in experiments.
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From what a true believer frequently tells me:
The point of reincarnation is to learn things and then die.
If you fail this mission, then when you die, you have to forget everything and start over.
And you have 50 chances to get it right or you won't get into heaven.

I don't hold stock in it because I think if I were a god, I could run things more efficiently.
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dougeprofile wrote:

One life, then comes judgment. The "untouchable" class in India goes through a lot of hardship because of their status causing many of them to embrace Christianity.


what an abridged version of ground situation. poor people in India are given job, house and spouse for converting in Christanity. rare are people don't take the offer? i know many who took it and 1 who didn't take it.
returning to question, no i don't believe in reincarnation. i'm a science junkie who believes when you die, it's the end.
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I've supported the idea of reincarnation for as long as I remember. Nowadays my religious belief is that we go to what we believe in. Even then, reincarnation always seemed plausible as the matter that makes us up gets split up and spread out as we die. Even in a monkeys and typewriters sense that my friends believe, it does seem possible - albeit my idea of it has fluctuated from straight reincarnation to a nirvana like state.
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Morbidhanson wrote:

When you die, you become an organism based on how good/bad you were your previous life. Crooks get turned into roaches in the next life and whatnot, as punishment before being turned back into a human again. It is an eternal loop of suffering and death. In order to escape the samsara, you have to attain enlightenment while in the form of a human. What happens after you are no longer reincarnated? I'm not sure. Some say you become a god or a buddha. Others say you just enter a state of eternal nothingness or peace. I'm not sure how much time elapses between each instance of rebirth.

It's definitely an interesting belief. There are also a bunch of superstitions surrounding this. Birthmarks are said to be in the area where you suffered a fatal injury in your previous life, and there have been a few creepy and unexplained accounts of very young kids who knew exactly where an undiscovered body was, who claim it was their previous body. At least one was able to describe in detail his previous life and locate the body as well.

I don't seriously believe in reincarnation but I think religious concepts like this are very interesting.

http://listverse.com/2013/10/21/10-interesting-cases-of-supposed-reincarnation/


I looked at that link, and read that seriously until I came to the #1. It would have been better without that #1.
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