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Florida Outlawed Unmarried Couples Living Together.
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A friend of mine lived in Florida for six months recently and sent me this link:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/10524561/Man-tries-to-trade-alligator-for-beer-in-Florida-shop.html

The future looks dark for the sunshine state
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The conservative right wingers, in so many ways than just this, or running; sprinting backwards, trying to drag this country decades back into the past, if not further.


A Republican representative was trying to get this law repealed in 2011. More than likely this law is decades of years old, and one of the many antiquated laws that never came up for repeal because they were never really enforced in the first place.

Looking it up a bit, it looks like the law itself dates back to 1868
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0798/Sections/0798.02.html

"Last week, state Rep. Ritch Workman filed legislation -- HB 4021 -- to repeal that provision, as well as a related one that bars people from 'living in open adultery.'"
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/09/01/florida.cohabitation.law/index.html
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I'm pretty sure the law is unconstitutional. In particular, it violates Amendment number XIV, which states and i quote:
"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of the law".
Making a law that forbids unmarried couple from being under the same roof violates the right of liberty and property (since you own the property, you should be allowed to let anyone stay in your own property).
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I think here in San Antonio, it's still illegal to not hitch your horse when you enter a public establishment.
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This is just some old law that has more than likely not been enforced in decades but it's still just there in the books.
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It's also still against the law here in Texas to carry wire cutters in our saddlebags We're not weird , just independent ...after all Roosterteeth gave the masses RWBY !
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Doesn't really matter much if the law was never formally abolished if modern sensibilities and circumstances make it so judges will never enforce them.

This case, however, is pretty disturbing. Fining people for living together? I don't think any modern courts of appeal will ever affirm these types of decisions if litigation pops up.
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If a couple gets charged, and they appeal to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court take the case, it will be interesting.
They have the legal power to negate and nullify the law made by Florida officials.
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Dubnoman wrote:

The conservative right wingers, in so many ways than just this, or running; sprinting backwards, trying to drag this country decades back into the past, if not further.

It really pisses me off and it is really sad and sorry. They can't accept that this country is one where church and state are separated. If they had their way, many of them would have America be a theocracy. Yeah, that'd be great. I hear Iran is a great place to live...no doubt, if they had their theocracy, in no time they would be hanging gays and bis and trans people and stoning to death adulterers and atheists. : \

I'm Christian, btw. But man, I'm sick of so many conservative right wingers in this country.


Christian have never wanted a Theocracy, that only exists in Islamic countries - so breathe and take your panic attack medicine. The Christians of this country put in place a secular government and have ALWAYS supported that arrangement - without them there never would have been an America. Though I do think we need to return to the constitutional government the Founders bequeathed to us. Springing forward is pretty stupid if you're going off a cliff. Today Liberals LOVE to dictate their beliefs onto religious believers by force of law - remember those elderly nuns the ACA tried to force to buy contraceptive coverage even though it violated their religious beliefs? Or the lady who only refused to arrange flowers for a homosexual wedding who the rabid Democrat in WA is threatening with the loss of home and business for adhering to her religious beliefs? Please.

It is dumb having an unenforced law on the books, but I would hardly call a 150 year old law "sprinting back"; it is sad that people are freaking out about it. Long ago State sponsorship of churches was done away with (as it should have), but today liberals take money by force of law from teachers and force them to join unions that spend the money to advocate political causes those same teachers disagree with - Liberals are such Hypocrites!

I would have a hard time repealing this law on purely secular grounds; Children and women are FAR more likely to be abused when the parents are not married; even secular people would have supported the law back then; Marriage (between a man and woman, as it can only be) should be encouraged by the state.

Delusional thinking aside, Christians would never support "hanging" gays or stoning atheists and adulterers - can you find even ONE case 300 years? You sir should apologize for your slander!

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In Nevada, It Is Illegal For A Man To Buy Drinks For More Than Three People At A Time.

In South Carolina, You Must Be 18 Years Of Age To Play A Pinball Machine

In Idaho, It Is Illegal For A Man To Give His Sweetheart A Box Of Candy Weighing More Than 50 lbs

There are still lots of crazy laws still in the books. They aren't enforced though~


in Louisiana it is illegal to tie an alligator to a fire hydrant

now u know no one follows that law, everywhere you turn in Louisiana there's a friggin gator tied to a hydrant
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As an aside, that article is rather awful
Apart from the politics it tries to push, it's just purposefully misleading.

Living in sin: Unmarried Florida couples can face jail for cohabitating — and hundreds have been charged.

Nearly 700 people were charged with misdemeanors between 2006 and 2011, according to WCTV.

The source linked provides no evidence that these people were charged with misdemeanors due to this law, unless it's known that these misdemeanor charges are due to the cohabitation law that's a meaningless statement.
http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/FL_Couples_Living_Together_Without_Being_Married_Can_Get_Arrested_128845313.html



In 2012, a “concerned citizen” called for Hallandale Beach City Commissioner Keith London to be prosecuted under the law for living with his girlfriend.

“I don’t give a darn about London’s living arrangement. I may even agree that the law in question is archaic and not well-suited to contemporary times. But the real story is that an elected official — sworn (or affirmed) to uphold state law — is knowingly violating that law,” Linda Takahashi explained.

Hallandale Beach officials and the State Attorney’s Office declined to investigate.

And this right here states the police and attorney's office both said they weren't even going to investigate under this law, much less prosecute under it.
It's obvious that the 'concerned citizen' simply doesn't like her city commissioner and wants him either out of office or otherwise punished.
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i tried looking on google news, and apparently there aren't many people reporting on this, and those who do cite the "rawstory" as a source, which isn't exactly the most credible news source.
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I just searched bing with Florida cohabitation law and the CNN report from 2011 was basically the first one to come up
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I highly doubt that there isn't more to this. Even were it true, as many others have stated, there are to many silly laws to count that no has any intention of upholding. I also don't feel it's right to spin this against the republicans, whether or not one or two radicals are for it, the common individual on the right side of the fence would definitely disagree with this.
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netdisorder wrote:


ssxtitan wrote:

In Nevada, It Is Illegal For A Man To Buy Drinks For More Than Three People At A Time.

In South Carolina, You Must Be 18 Years Of Age To Play A Pinball Machine

In Idaho, It Is Illegal For A Man To Give His Sweetheart A Box Of Candy Weighing More Than 50 lbs

There are still lots of crazy laws still in the books. They aren't enforced though~


In Arizona, it is Illegal For A minor to partake in self rape (aka masturbation)


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