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hmm i like them around the same
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How well do you think your favourite cellphone fit into this idea of market compatibility? Between Apple and Samsung, who does this better? Let me know!


What? All that build up and this is all you're asking? Sheesh.

They both fit phenomenally well.

Apple is a marketing god who will be studied for decades to come for their success. Apple excels at everything that the technical among us would call "soft skills." There's a reason the "cult of Apple" is a thing. There's basically only one type of iphone user: one who loves it, warts and all. They don't care that there's only a few variants of iphone, or what the hardware specs are. They only care that it is indeed an iphone. Blessed by the spirit of Jobs, peace be upon him, amen.

Samsung and other makers of Android phones on the other hand cater to the needs of the rest of the market by offering broad and varied product lines to suit the needs and budgets of the rest of us.

Oh, and then there's Windows and Blackberry... yeah, they're still around.


Well all of that buildup was to prevent what you interpreted, what I meant when I said "marketing compatibility" was how well a certain cellphone company fit their products within the market needs, application developer needs, and current market trend. My question has nothing to do with marketing.

I mentioned technology to debunk the common perspective that the most state of the art cellphone is the most coveted cellphone. What is really most popular are phones that are the most market compatible.

This is where I want to direct the discussion, it is my hope that more people such as yourself would take the time to read before responding.
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After reading the OP, it seemed to be asking which is more marketable, apple vs samsung? Then it goes on about higher specs in the opinion of the OP does not factor so much in sales.

I think tech does factor in a lot. Mainly in the marketing side of things. Some sell a phone on it's gimmicks. Like Sony Ericsson's water proof phone. I had to google commercials for cell phones... since most of the ones I recall are for iPhone. So I looked up a ad for the samsung s6. It talked about features, mostly the specs of it's camera. The iPhone6 one went on about it changing your life, and it being.... huge. Apple has a very effective hype and marketing game. But what gets people from buying a Samsung S5 to the Samsung S6? The iPhone5S to the iPhone6? Largely marketing, and marketing talks about the tech. It does not always show the numbers like mega pixels and such, but it will say Sharper pictures, better pictures. Faster internet, bigger this and that. New=Bigger and Better.

I looked up which is doing better. Samsung or apple. I got one website saying as of jan 20115 apple iPhones had overtaken Samsung, the first time in a while. I had more results about andriod versus iPhone. So which is performing better in sales, Right now, it seems to be apple. However when the next big phone comes out, with it's new features.. who knows if apple can stay on the current top seller's list.

Ultimately, without the bullshit above. It's personal preference. They are both doing very well in the market place, they have for several years. Some buy samsung for the features, some buy it because they hate apple. Some people buy iPhone for it's features, some buy it because they love apple. They both buy their phones because they prefer that phone.


No I am not talking about the marketability of the products, marking has nothing to do with my question. I'm asking how well you do you think your cellphone fits into market need, application developer need, and market trend.

Let me define these terms:

Market need: consumer desire
application developer need: How well the product fits into app developer goals and capabilities
Market trend: how well the product fits in regards the to general direction the mobile market is heading towards

In regards to your discussion on marketing of technology being the driver of consumer interest, I disagree. The consumer does not understand or care what hardware improvements are in the product. I think what makes a cellphone successful and what makes consumers excited is how the phone caters to what popular trends such as Facebook, instagram, twitter. This is the underlying purpose for marketing better camera functionality for an example. Catering to popular trends does not mean being the most up to date with technology just up to date enough to reach consumer desire.
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rizelmine17 wrote:

Well all of that buildup was to prevent what you interpreted, what I meant when I said "marketing compatibility" was how well a certain cellphone company fit their products within the market needs, application developer needs, and current market trend. My question has nothing to do with marketing.


Does not compute.

This:

how well a certain cellphone company fit their products within the market needs, application developer needs, and current market trend

is marketing.

Your question has everything to do with marketing. Marketing is more than just making snazzy commercials. Marketing is everything you just listed, and a lot more, right down to the salesman putting the phone in your hand. The advertising is a very small part of it.




This is where I want to direct the discussion, it is my hope that more people such as yourself would take the time to read before responding.


I did.
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Both suck. Use Windows or Blackberry.
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A nearly 20 year old StarTAC makes better phone calls than any of them.
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I lik anderd
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Apple all the way for me. MP3, Phone, Computer, crap I'd even get the Apple car but for video game consoles its either Nintendo or Sony. I don't trust Microsoft at all anymore.
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If you had an Apple you're sentences wouldn't suck. Learn how to speak!
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evilotakuneko wrote:


rizelmine17 wrote:

Well all of that buildup was to prevent what you interpreted, what I meant when I said "marketing compatibility" was how well a certain cellphone company fit their products within the market needs, application developer needs, and current market trend. My question has nothing to do with marketing.


Does not compute.

This:

how well a certain cellphone company fit their products within the market needs, application developer needs, and current market trend

is marketing.

Your question has everything to do with marketing. Marketing is more than just making snazzy commercials. Marketing is everything you just listed, and a lot more, right down to the salesman putting the phone in your hand. The advertising is a very small part of it.




This is where I want to direct the discussion, it is my hope that more people such as yourself would take the time to read before responding.


I did.


I did a poor job at communicating what I mean, I apologize. I did not imply you did not read the OP, I'm trying to reach other people who didn't when I said that. Anyways, allow me to try again and further the conversation. How large of an impact do you think having the latest technology has on the success of a cellphone product?
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Samsung FTW!
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Meh, they both have their strengths and downsides. Personally, I go Android...So Samsung S4.
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Windows Phone FTW!
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Apparently I'm team Samsung since my ancient flip phone is a Samsung. Considering the abuse its been through I'm continuously surprised it still works.

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rizelmine17 wrote:


I did a poor job at communicating what I mean, I apologize. I did not imply you did not read the OP, I'm trying to reach other people who didn't when I said that. Anyways, allow me to try again and further the conversation. How large of an impact do you think having the latest technology has on the success of a cellphone product?


Now that's a different thing altogether and you could get as many answers as people who bother to answer it.

I would say it's fairly important but not entirely a deal-breaker for a phone. Let me walk you through my reasoning.

First, Apple. As mentioned above, the Cult of Apple will buy Apple, period. Android fans have long made fun of iOS for lagging behind (the iphone 6 was greeted with "welcome to 2012" from droid users after all, citing features "new" to the iphone that had been present in many 'droid phones for years). To the Apple user, it didn't matter: it was an iphone, and iphones cater to their wants and needs.

Second, it depends on just which technology is or isn't the latest. You can bet, if Apple released the iPhone 7 tomorrow, but it only supported EDGE and GPRS (what would've been called "2G" if we were calling things that back then), not even the Cult of Apple would buy it. Radios are important! However, if it lacked say, 802.11ac/N wifi capability (ok, I know the current model does, but anyway), the Cult would certainly be more forgiving.

Actually, I think it bears mentioning: the iPhone 6's CPU is slower than even my three year old Samsung phone. And it has the same amount of RAM. (of course, as they say on Top Gear, these specs are meaningless, all that really matters is how fast it goes 'round our track--or how fast it feels to the user, in this case)

Third, there are the niche markets, containing people like myself who want a gorram physical keyboard. Apple will never cater to us and it seems nor will Samsung, Nokia, or HTC. We have to put up with older and older phones as the last vestiges of manual entry disappear. I've been eyeing up Blackberry, who recently introduced the Blackberry Classic, updating their classic design with new technology, for this very reason.

Finally, there's the large swathe of folks who just want a freakin' phone, but don't want to spend a lot of money. The only way such people end up with iphones is through carrier-subsidized deals, otherwise they end up on mid/low-end androids, designed to cater specifically to tightwads. These people don't care at all, and they're the reason there are so gorram many androids out there.

And most of them suck. There's a reason you've probably never heard of the "Samsung Galaxy Victory."

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