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New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and Schools Chancellor Carmen Fariña today announced that New York City will become the largest school district in the nation to recognize Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha as holidays on the official school calendar. In the coming 2015-16 school year, schools will close on September 24 for the Eid al-Adha, ensuring hundreds of thousands of Muslim families can observe the day. Eid al-Fitr, which falls over the summer in 2016, will be designated a holiday for those attending summer school. New York City schools will not lose any instructional days as part of this change to the calendar.

Should the school districts be allowed to do this? Is it a violation of 'separation of church and state'? I can already imagine the anti-Muslim sentiment.
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If it is a. "Violation" than why do people get off for Christian and Jewish holidays? Seems fair to me to have these days off. This has flame thread written all over it.
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All religions should be observed. This is America. Everyone is equal.
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It's a day off - personally I wouldn't be complaining.
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kamahl01 wrote:

If it is a. "Violation" than why do people get off for Christian and Jewish holidays? Seems fair to me to have these days off. This has flame thread written all over it.


I don't think you're wrong at all but as someone who has lived in the south of all places for many years, I've never had nor seen a school district here let off for any religious holiday Christian or other. Christmas does occur during winter break in most districts but school is not let off for the purpose of Christmas.

I whole heartedly agree this is a flame thread.
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yeah..thats just what americans need, even less education~

where do you draw the line on this? You could eliminate half the year if you throw in every holiday for every religion that is out there.

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kamahl01 wrote:

If it is a. "Violation" than why do people get off for Christian and Jewish holidays? Seems fair to me to have these days off. This has flame thread written all over it.


Technically, they don't--there just happen to be Federal holidays that coincide with those days. And not all of them -- for example, they don't get Good Friday or Easter.

Also pretty sure they don't actually get Hanukkah off. Hanukkah appears to move around, since its date is not based on the Gregorian calendar.

Actually, looking at the calendar for a local school district, it seems like Christmas is the only religious holiday that occurs also during a school holiday.

So there you go--they don't truly get Judeo-Christian holidays. It appears the mayor of NYC has just violated the Establishment Clause and needs to be smacked for it.

Edit: Here's a Google News search that turned up some articles. Take your pick: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=new+york+holidays&oq=new+york+holidays&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i53.18460.22615.0.22751.17.8.0.9.9.0.220.1294.1j6j1.8.0...0.0...1ac.1.lvW6fMd6lcg&gws_rd=ssl

And from one of them, a quote:


The mayor announced the policy Wednesday at a Brooklyn public school where 36 percent of its students were absent the last time Eid al-Adha occurred on an instructional day. The program will begin in the school year that starts in September.


Holy shit, 36%. That's a lotta muslims. Or kids pretending to be. :p
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It's not anti-anything. You can't go changing the way things work out of nowhere one day just because of a 'religion'.
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ssxtitan wrote:

yeah..thats just what americans need, even less education~

where do you draw the line on this? You could eliminate half the year if you throw in every holiday for every religion that is out there.



As long as they stick to non-instructional days I don't see the problem. I'm not sure anyone is truly upset by it anyways. If there is a single child in all of New York who is mad about losing a day of summer school, they aren't the type of kid in summer school to begin with.
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ssxtitan wrote:

yeah..thats just what americans need, even less education~

where do you draw the line on this? You could eliminate half the year if you throw in every holiday for every religion that is out there.



As long as they stick to non-instructional days I don't see the problem. I'm not sure anyone is truly upset by it anyways. If there is a single child in all of New York who is mad about losing a day of summer school, they aren't the type of kid in summer school to begin with.



oh i'm sure the kids are delighted, but it definitely seems like a slippery slope kind of deal.

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Seems fair to me, if they are going close for holidays from other major religions.
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Uh this is awkward.

Here in the Netherlands students and children with a religion can actually write a formal letter ( signed by their parents if they're still a minor) requesting a day off due a religious event and most of the schools comply and give them the day off.

I got the day off myself during the day of chinese new year, although this wasn't because of a religion
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This is good. I know in America, a lot of Americans definitely have some anti-Islam attitudes and sentiments, but young Muslim children in America...are far removed from the terrible things being done by extremists and the relevant world issues...they are like any other youths, still have much innocence, if not full of innocence...and if there are a lot of Muslim children in NYC, I think it is fair that some of their very important holidays are allowed to be school free days for them.
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Better then building a mosque.
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