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Post Reply Man Given a month-long prison sentence. Crime? Picked up the trash too early.
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sue my lawyer for malpractice.
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This is a complete perversion of the Judicial system...
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GayAsianBoy wrote:

???

why the garbagemen in australia always pick up at 3AM?

but nobody says anything.


Somebody should totally sue them for that.
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GayAsianBoy wrote:

???

why the garbagemen in australia always pick up at 3AM?

but nobody says anything.


Because they "like their quality of life" and, apparently, the rest of the world does not lol
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Our rubbish can get picked up anything from 5am- midday. The only complaints is when they missed emptying a bin.
Posted 3/7/15

Morbidhanson wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

???

why the garbagemen in australia always pick up at 3AM?

but nobody says anything.


Because they "like their quality of life" and, apparently, the rest of the world does not lol



do the trains in the USA also only operate after 7AM??? What about the quality of life of people who live under train tracks? or near them? I feel like these lawmakers only care about the quality of life of the bourgeois lifestyle , to be honest.

and am sure there are houses that are positioned on a highway too... do the tell traffic not to drive on it until after 7AM? lol...

i don't understand why this reasoning only applies to garbage collectors....... am i being too logical?

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well that's messed up. it's definitely a cruel and unusual punishment, since picking up trash early doesn't warrant a prison sentence.
maybe a small fine at most.
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GayAsianBoy wrote:


Morbidhanson wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

???

why the garbagemen in australia always pick up at 3AM?

but nobody says anything.


Because they "like their quality of life" and, apparently, the rest of the world does not lol



do the trains in the USA also only operate after 7AM??? What about the quality of life of people who live under train tracks? or near them? I feel like these lawmakers only care about the quality of life of the bourgeois lifestyle , to be honest.

and am sure there are houses that are positioned on a highway too... do the tell traffic not to drive on it until after 7AM? lol...

i don't understand why this reasoning only applies to garbage collectors....... am i being too logical?



This is not how it usually works here in the US. This is a case of selfish homeowners who feel like they are entitled to more than they are to, and putting pressure on the judicial system to be more harsh in their punishments. Or at least that's what it sounds like.

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He could have appealed the decision to the Supreme Court, and if they took the case, it'd most likely result in him going free
(because of amendment VIII). too bad it'd be too expensive for him to do so.
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i would rejoice of our trash was picked up that early. sometimes they don't come till mid-afternoon >.>
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Good.
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Morbidhanson wrote:


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Morbidhanson wrote:

It's less about what can be done and more about why this is holding wrong.

Haha, it probably bothers me more than it does most people, since I'm in law school. This is the type of case that ends up in the books and confuses the future students.

Law school?
What kind of clients would you like to work with?
Wrongfully accused and imprisoned? The ones that couldn't afford to defend themselves?
Is there any chance that you would accept a really guilty client in your future? Are you willing to win the case and make the person jail free? Would you set someone get away from murder?


I don't really know who I want to work with. I just know I can't deal with criminal law and tort law. That stuff is too intense. It eats away at you when you keep having to represent clients that you know are awful people. I'm thinking about contract law since it's my strongest subject.

I guess it depends on how much I need money. I can't lie to the court. All I can do is make the best use of the available facts to reduce the severity of the punishment. If there is too much proof, there's no way he can avoid conviction.

It really depends on the case and the facts.

Would be nice if you know how to plant false evidences so you could discredit the witnesses or/and professional advisors.
Hacking too.

Real law is nowhere as exciting as the TV stuff.


It depends. Just hearing people's excuses to get away jury duty can be funny.

On tv, actors already memorized their lines. They just have to emote.

In the real, seen lawyers talked their asses out against the evidences pointed out on their client. We're like, "bitch, you know that guy is obviously guilty."

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jordancharacter wrote:


This is not how it usually works here in the US. This is a case of selfish homeowners who feel like they are entitled to more than they are to, and putting pressure on the judicial system to be more harsh in their punishments. Or at least that's what it sounds like.



The real problem is that there is a financial incentive for the town. They get a portion of the money that this guy pays, and he will be paying a shitload of money.

He has to pay a fee to the private company that runs the jail; for his modified incarceration. When he finishes his sentence, he will have to pay another fee to process his official release. Once he is on probation he will have to pay several fees for all the tests and appointments that will be a condition of his parole. The DA has no interest in doing anything but filling the town coffers with easy money, and padding his resume with sentences that appear "tough on crime".

His biggest mistake was being naive and thinking that by pleading guilty he would be doing the honorable thing and taking responsibility for his mistake. When all is said and done, he will have spent far more than if he had just gotten an attorney. Honestly, I can't see why his employer didn't provide one for him.
Posted 3/7/15

jordancharacter wrote:
This is not how it usually works here in the US. This is a case of selfish homeowners who feel like they are entitled to more than they are to, and putting pressure on the judicial system to be more harsh in their punishments. Or at least that's what it sounds like.


glad to hear it's not the norm over there, tbh. it's so bizarre... i can't believe he was sentenced to prison for picking garbage early, i mean most (sane) people would be happy to get bins picked up early so they don't have to drive behind the truck at 7AM O_o.........

hope the judge gets backlash on twitter or something



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i would rejoice of our trash was picked up that early. sometimes they don't come till mid-afternoon >.>


is garfield your garbage collector for your street?
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if anyone knows the judge twitter, feel free to post it here, thanks.
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