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Should pot be legal?
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Posted 3/10/15
Yes it should be legal because hemp is beneficial. The only reason they made hemp illegal was to persecute Mexican immigrants at the turn of the 20th century in the USA. The fact that hemp is illegal in the first place is a complete joke. Hemp has absolutely ZERO harm to society. Hemp can be used as rope, clothing, fuel and food. Growing hemp would be of a huge benefit to society. Legalize it RIGHT now.
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Sure. I've got plenty already.

Posted 3/10/15 , edited 3/10/15
legal or not, those who want it will obtain it.
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Yup, nothing like a failed drug war, might as well ask if cops should keep shooting unarmed people and claiming they needed to be shot.
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JanusCascade wrote:

I wasn't thinking of Heroin or Morphine, Just the old fashion Smoking Opium. Morphine are stronger than Opium, and the Heroin is the strongest because it enter the Blood barrier quicker in the brain.. This what I read. That why Heroin is on Control Substance Act I (Non-Medical) Because its mainly to get High instead of medical. It got powerful addiction. With Morphine it can be controlled and you won't get addiction to it as long you don't stay on them for certain days.

When My father recieved a bad new that he is dying, they let him take Morphine at home.. This surpised me because I thought.. only way to be on them is to be at Hospital. The lady who is taking care of him had to write down the time and the doses she give to my Father so there won't be abuse or one of his friends decided to steal it and sell it. When my father died, First thing the head nurse do is go over to the house before everyone got there and she would put Morphine in the lock box and put them in car than back to the house to wait for us.. They had to be very careful with it, because if it gone missing or taken lot, they'll get in trouble with DEA.

Anyway back to Opium...They did some lab to create something with Opium that how Morphine and Heroin came into the picture, they said that the Opium only got 2 or 3 hours of duration, While Morphine is around 4 hours, and Heroin is like 4 to 6 hours, but it enter blood barrier in the brain quicker.. Meaning get you High faster.

I agreed with you that Needle is dangerous.. I never tried out Opium, or Heroin, only did Morphine of course everybody have, due to going to Hospital. :p I went there because I keep getting Kidney stone in the past, the pain isn't fun at all!

But problem with Opium is that once you been on them for so long, you body depend on it.. If you just happen to go on Vacation and forgot to bring Opium with you.. You'll be experiencing deadly withdrawal known as cold Turkey. That why when they take one, they felt so much better. But they no longer get high off of it because their body and mind have adjust to it.. But in order to lead a normal life, they have to take it everyday without missing a Dose.

My main concern is what if Citizen been on Pot for long time and they no longer get the desire pleasure from them.. So they go for stronger version of the Drugs, and start asking Government to Legalize Morphine or Opium for recreational reason which is bad idea.

Sorry if I'm causing confusion heh XD.

JanusCascade


The first thing to bear in mind is that opioids are a category of drugs, so codeine, morphine, heroin, and so forth are all opioids. The active ingredient in opium milk (which is what you're talking about being smoked) actually turns out to be morphine, but it's mixed in with a bunch of other substances which aren't related to the drug action of interest. So "smoking opium" is just morphine mixed in with a bunch of junk that can bring about unwanted side effects in addition to the effects of morphine, with the principle difference being that you're smoking that morphine instead of administering it intravenously. So all that was actually done to opium milk in the laboratory was that morphine got extracted out of it. That's it.

The next thing to know is that opioids are all equally efficacious even if they're not all equally potent. That means you may need more of one opioid to elicit the same effect, but all opioids are equally able to relieve pain. There's no advantage in using heroin, morphine, codeine, or whatever else for the purposes of pursuing efficacy, and potency is really pretty overrated. Speaking from an efficacy standpoint there is therefore no difference in the relative "strength" of the opioids. There are more potent opioids, but at the end of the day it doesn't actually matter how much more or less potent they are. I'll explain why if you don't believe me on that.

Now, speed of onset and duration of effect is a whole other matter. That's a function of bioavailability and inactivation, which will differ for administration intravenously, orally, or by inhaling vapors in the lungs. Intravenous administration goes straight into the bloodstream, so you get the full dose of the drug reaching the blood brain barrier and attempting to cross it (which I think opioids do equally well considering their structural similarity nope, heroin is more lipid soluble). With capsules it's not quite so clear cut how much is going to reach the blood since the liver is going to inactivate some amount of it as the blood passes by. Euphoria is a function of a drug's ability to get into the brain as quickly as possible en masse, which is why intravenous administration is the big thing among abusers. OxyContin tablets do not deliver that euphoria unless they're modified because of the first pass by the liver and relatively slower release of drug, and that's also why the dosage rates are different.

An opioid withdrawal, unlike an alcohol withdrawal, can be treated by cold turkey methods. What essentially happens is you have a case of the worst flu you've ever seen, diarrhea, fever, muscle weakness, whole body soreness, the works. You can survive an opioid withdrawal just fine, lots of people have been forced to do it while incarcerated. It's a miserable experience, and that's why so many clinics will administer drugs to prevent the onset of withdrawal as you're getting off of opioids, but not all clinics do this. Some just make you deal with it.
Posted 3/10/15
The benefits of being neutral is, of course being neutral. I feel I have little to say on the matter that hasn't already been said, well excuse me, written.


Something curious occurred to me just now. I would highly not recommend smoking marijuana in childhood or adolescence. Ive met some relatively young people who did so while they haven't finished growing yet. Could you imagine what happened to them? One young man was 19, and looked like he was 10. Apparently it will stunt your growth. Also, it increases the likelihood of developing Schizophrenia later in life, as well, and if you have that, it can seriously worsen that condition.

However, for an otherwise normal person to smoke it recreationally or to manage pain I don't see why not... as long as you don't quit your job and move back in with your parents, then go right ahead , but be aware of handling it in moderation as with any other drug.

As for whether or not it will open the floodgates so-to-speak for other drugs, maybe, then again, maybe not. Noone knows this to a certainty.

Posted 3/10/15

Ssomething wrote:

legal or not, those who want it will obtain it.


This rings true indefinitely.

I'm for marijuana legalization. It's an economically beneficial move, and generally speaking is far less detrimental to the user than many other readily available vices and activities.

Plus, it's nice to not be treated like a criminal in my state for sitting in my house minding my own business.


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Would be funny with Afganistan and Mexico involved.
Tax goes right back to department of defense.

How far will accountability go? How far will legality apply? Right down to farming?

Anyway, I don't care.
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Posted 3/10/15
Legalize it. The same people will still smoke it, it'll just free up our jails.
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Legalize it, it will become a huge influx of money in to the economy, plus there will be less people in jail for pointless shit.
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I would say I am 50/50 on the legalization here. It has some positives, quite a bit of things that didn't change at all with legalization, and a few things that have gotten worse. I don't personally partake, tried it a couple time in college and didn't care for it. I have family and friends who use it, and they run the gamut; those that you can't tell they smoke, and lead productive lives in society, those whose lives revolve around pot and the culture, but have their shit together for the most part, to those who have pissed their lives away with the help of marijuana.

Anyway, here is a breakdown of some of my feelings on the legalization here.

In most areas of town, you actually experience less pot smoking in public now. Of course, Denver had been pretty liberal about the potheads long before even med-marijuana was approved. So for someone just passing through town who has never been here before, it may be a bit of a jolt. Especially if you are from a conservative area of the country or from a small town.

The influx in cash has helped to expand anti-drug education for kids. And the legal status of a drug makes it no more difficult to talk to a kid about it. It's the same as talking about alcohol.

I am still not happy about what I feel are insufficient packaging and manufacturing limitations for edibles and oil. But those items are being addressed.

Some studies have linked an increase in the homeless population to legalization, but nothing concrete. The homeless have always been an issue here, and the rapid gentrification of the city are limiting their options for places to sleep and congregate. This makes the problem especially terrible if you have to pass through any of those areas. But most of those people have a myriad of problems in their lives, and marijuana use wouldn't even rank in the top 10 things that are holding them back.

Another issue I have, is that they set the tax rates so high that the majority of the pot-heads I know are still getting theirs from the same places they did before legalization. So any claims about eliminating crime and black-market dealers is bunk.

I haven't seen any hard numbers, but I would imagine that marijuana related crimes are up. The dispensaries are not allowed to use banks, so they have large amounts of cash coming in. They are major targets for robberies, as well as their employees because they are paid in cash.

My neighbor who has brain cancer has a harder time getting the most beneficial strains of marijuana simply because of lack of supply. The regulations regarding grow operations need to be tweaked for a better supply for people who actually need medicinal marijuana . And unfortunately, small operations have been mostly squeezed out of the business by large groups with big money investors. The permitting process for dispensaries in most places places a greater burden for those small operations.

And, the biggest problem I have with legalization. What was already one of the most desirable cities to live in, now has a new reason for people to flock here. So prices for nearly everything are skyrocketing. It isn't a bad thing for me, I own rental properties. But life here is getting a lot more difficult for the working poor, and those just starting out on their own.

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Legalize it. It'll benefit the community.
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I think it should be legal, but I still wouldn't smoke it.

I Know family members and family friends who/who've smoke(d) it on a daily basis, base on what I've seen, I have swore to never intentionally put that shit in to my system for recreational purposes.

I have never seen any positive effects of marijuana, no matter what people on the Internet say about how great that crap is, I have had zero experiences that were positive, all were negative. ( yes I know this is anecdotal)

This does not mean I think it should be illegal, if grown people want to smoke it, I say let them. Countless studies have shown weed to be far less dangerous than alcohol, yet many of the people raving about pot are the same ones who would go out binge drinking with their friends like there is no tomorrow.

All recreational drugs are bad in my opinion, and could have severe consequences as a result of their use.

Does not mean they should be banned for adults.

If people want to be fucking morons and smoke their brains out, let them, just don't expect responsible people to pay for your' health bills, which usually is what ends up happening.
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Legalize it, tax it, profit.
Posted 3/10/15
Marijuana had noticeable healing effects for my back. Before I began sleeping on a hammock, waking up every morning was a pain due to a back injury I got from kickboxing. Smoking weed right before sleeping completely prevented inflammation in my back and allowed me to wake up with no pain whatsoever. Not only that, it helped me sleep too. It's relaxing and mind-cleansing. You should try it.
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