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Should pot be legal?
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No! Simply put if you want to relax and blow off some steam, use a legalized form of recreational drug, ciggaretts or alchol. Drugs are so much worse than people want to admit and its also more appealing since they are seen more rebellious than the accepted types.
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DarkFrostX wrote:


If people want to be fucking morons and smoke their brains out, let them, just don't expect responsible people to pay for your' health bills, which usually is what ends up happening.



Assuming you're talking about paying for their health bills through taxes- I'd say that's sort of a flawed perception. I do expect 'responsible' people to pay for my health bills. I pay my taxes, so I'm paying for theirs too, eh? You don't get to be an elitist when you throw your money in the pot(heh) with everyone else's. If there's someone you shouldn't be paying for- it's the people who don't/actively avoid paying taxes, and still expect to reap the rewards of the system. Whether or not they partake in drug use is besides the point.

Now, if there's some guy who spent all of his readily available money on pot and then asked you directly to pay for some treatment he needed; yeah- screw that guy. He needs to learn both recreational and financial moderation.

edit: accidental double quote.
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No! Simply put if you want to relax and blow off some steam, use a legalized form of recreational drug, ciggaretts or alchol.


Why?
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i think it should be illegal
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No! Simply put if you want to relax and blow off some steam, use a legalized form of recreational drug, ciggaretts or alchol. Drugs are so much worse than people want to admit and its also more appealing since they are seen more rebellious than the accepted types.


Recreational drugs are chemical substances that affect the central nervous system, such as opioids or hallucinogens. Alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are the most widely consumed psychotropic drugs worldwide. Should we make those illegal too? I mean after all they are drugs used for recreation.

Sugar can cause diabetes if consumed in large amounts of years. Too much processed food in the diet can have negative effects on the body.

People who want to get high will find any possible way to do it. People huff paint fumes, sniff glue ect ect.

Most people will use a illegal substance first because they tend to think it more of being rebellious than a legal form.

Alcohol, Tobacco both were illegal at some point in our history and that never stopped people from doing them.

As for harder drugs well people will try those regardless of if they smoke pot.
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I am still not happy about what I feel are insufficient packaging and manufacturing limitations for edibles and oil. But those items are being addressed.


Absolutely a valid concern. Packaging must accurately reflect any potential concerns, and should definitely carry accurate information about all contents.


Some studies have linked an increase in the homeless population to legalization, but nothing concrete. The homeless have always been an issue here, and the rapid gentrification of the city are limiting their options for places to sleep and congregate. This makes the problem especially terrible if you have to pass through any of those areas. But most of those people have a myriad of problems in their lives, and marijuana use wouldn't even rank in the top 10 things that are holding them back.


Two major steps for relieving their problems would be to provide them psychiatric care (in honesty I think that should be something provided as part and parcel of an NHS) and either rent-free or low-rent homes/apartments. As for the gentrification, marijuana's contribution thereto is that the bans are being lifted in a hodgepodge, patchwork fashion. Lifting the federal ban would go a long way toward helping, I would think. That hits all communities equally, and one wonders how long states and municipalities would commit to carrying the torch of sustaining their own bans if they knew they would be doing so alone.


Another issue I have, is that they set the tax rates so high that the majority of the pot-heads I know are still getting theirs from the same places they did before legalization. So any claims about eliminating crime and black-market dealers is bunk.


Then they should lower the rate. Marijuana can be taxed as a source of revenue, but not to the point that the primary benefits (saving money on enforcement and weakening black market actors) are defeated.


I haven't seen any hard numbers, but I would imagine that marijuana related crimes are up. The dispensaries are not allowed to use banks, so they have large amounts of cash coming in. They are major targets for robberies, as well as their employees because they are paid in cash.


Is that because banks are involved in interstate transactions, and so money they've obtained from marijuana vendors would technically count as money obtained in violation of federal law? Meanwhile, it would seem that traffic fatalities in general are down when they were predicted to increase, so that's hopeful news.


My neighbor who has brain cancer has a harder time getting the most beneficial strains of marijuana simply because of lack of supply. The regulations regarding grow operations need to be tweaked for a better supply for people who actually need medicinal marijuana . And unfortunately, small operations have been mostly squeezed out of the business by large groups with big money investors. The permitting process for dispensaries in most places places a greater burden for those small operations.


As more and more bans either weaken or fall the limitations will have to be adjusted to continue to provide an adequate supply, that's certainly the case.


And, the biggest problem I have with legalization. What was already one of the most desirable cities to live in, now has a new reason for people to flock here. So prices for nearly everything are skyrocketing. It isn't a bad thing for me, I own rental properties. But life here is getting a lot more difficult for the working poor, and those just starting out on their own.


There's that gentrification again, and you're right: it's a major problem. The ban should be lifted uniformly if it is to be lifted at all.
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If it's legal it can only be sold to people above the age of 21 like alcohol. It's considered just as harmful as alcohol to the government by only selling it to adults. If people want to be stupid and smoke some weird ass plant and harm their body go right ahead. I won't be stupid and do it. I don't even use tobacco or alcohol so I'll live much longer than the ones using this crap.
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It should be illegal, more of a bad thing is not a good thing, and I hate how people justify legalizing pot by saying things such as, " Tobacco and Alcohol are worse and more addictive than Marijuana." As a society, we need to start cracking down on the drug industry, Make tobacco illegal, lower the alcoholic blood content limit, and regulate over the counter and prescription pills more harshly. I was raised in a drug filled house hold, including marijuana, and it was a hell I wouldn't want to wish on any child.

The difference between alcohol and marijuana is who it affects. Tobacco and Marijuana not only harms yourself, but the people around you, and the smell sticks, becoming a nuisance to other people you are around, even while not smoking. In all circumstances where someone who is under the influence of alcohol can harm others is illegal, such examples are public intoxication and driving while drunk or with open containers. I do not see why a special case should be made for marijuana.

As for medicinal uses, such as seizures, it doesn't need to be smoked. Have the cannabis oil administered at doctor offices and hospitals, but do not make it available to the public for any recreational use whatsoever.
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I really don't care.
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I mean yeah, I guess. But honestly I don't care haha. It's not something I'm passionate about so I wouldn't actively fight for this
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I believe it should be legal inside your residence but not on the streets.

I am by no means saying it is harmless, however in comparison to that which is available like tobacco, alcohol, legal highs, etc it is barely anything.
It has lots of beneficial factors in medicine.

Note: I am aware, others react differently to it, and it isn't such a light thing for them, however I believe that to be the case with any recreational drug.
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jordancharacter wrote:

It should be illegal, more of a bad thing is not a good thing, and I hate how people justify legalizing pot by saying things such as, " Tobacco and Alcohol are worse and more addictive than Marijuana." As a society, we need to start cracking down on the drug industry, Make tobacco illegal, lower the alcoholic blood content limit, and regulate over the counter and prescription pills more harshly. I was raised in a drug filled house hold, including marijuana, and it was a hell I wouldn't want to wish on any child.


So then by that reasoning trans fats, sugar, salt, carbs, caffeine would all have to be illegal as well because those are just as bad as drugs and caffeine is a drug in itself.

Trying to make tobacco illegal would be impossible in these days. Regardless of the situation, i can understand where you're coming from and wouldn't wish any child to be raised in a drug filled house. But seeing how it already happens it won't stop the problem.


Legalizing it sure as hell won't get rid of the problems fueling our society when it comes to drugs but it will allow the cops to focus more on the drugs like meth and coke which are a far worse problem then some fat dude sitting on his couch smoking some pot.

So if you drink tea, coffee, soda, eat chocolate, energy drinks, or whatever else may have caffeine in it then you better stop because thats a drug.

If you take over the counter meds for a cold or headache better stop those are also drugs. The point is that drugs come in all types and just because some people choose to abuse it doesn't mean that everyone will. I think it should be regulated heavily and have special places that can be smoked, consumed or the likes, just like alcohol.
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Prohibition in any form has never worked make it all legal and regulate it heavily. Treat the addiction as what it is a disease, when you focus on that rather than tossing people in jail oh by the way mostly minorities in jail you aren't fixing the problem you are only making it worse. Look at Portugal as an example they have been legal for the last 14 years now and their rates are lower not higher. Again history shows prohibition never works let the good times roll.

Pot is legal where I'm at though I don't partake maybe one day I will but it is a start.

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It really needs reclassification. It's currently in a group that suggests its as harmful as heroin and crack, which just isn't factually accurate.

But yeah, legalize and regulate. Adults should be allowed to make adult decisions. What I do in my home should be my business, especially if the only "victims" are willing participants.
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