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Post Reply My Nigga! Thoughts on the use of the word.
Posted 3/14/15 , edited 3/14/15
This thread makes me think of the boondocks.

Posted 3/14/15 , edited 3/14/15
Hmm....

My feelings on the issue are quite complicated.

Let me preface this by saying that I don't use the word or any variation of it. There are many reasons why, but the primary reason is simply because I don't tend to use that kind of slang in general.

As for it's use ~ what follows is just my personal opinion.

When I was younger, I disliked the fact that other black people tossed out this variation of the word so casually, but i've chnaged my mind.

Basically, the variation you occasionally hear in Black slang is the appropriation of a negative word. It's taking something that was meant as an insult and triumphing over it by turning it into a term of brotherhood and fraternity. There are other examples like this ~ I remember seeing an article about Hinomoto Oniko that I think illustrates an analogous situation.

However, I do think that only black people should be able to use any variation of the word. Why? Because i personally just don't feel like a member of another ethnicity can properly appreciate the "reversal" of the word. If you have no history with the original ethnic slur, I feel like the other variations lose the necessary context to make them expressions of brotherhood.

I'll give you another example. On my mother's side of the family, they occasionally call each other "monkey" as a term of endearment. It's like an inside joke and it's meant in an affectionate and loving way. If someone else where to call a member of my mother's family "monkey" - even if they meant it in that same endearing way - it's still odd and perhaps even inappropriate because it's divorced from context.

That's just my opinion - but take it with a grain of salt. I've already changed it once, after all lol
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Posted 3/14/15
Words aren't offensive, intent can be.
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Posted 3/15/15
Personally I wouldn't take a chance on using it as it would give me pause (A good rule of communication would be: If something gives you pause, then chances are there are better ways of putting it). I don't see a need to use it anyhow.
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I use it at times cant help it i dont wish to but its in everything damn it. i try to remember it was a word that made people feel wronged. so i try .

i dont know why people make a big deal now a days about it (by this i mean people that get angry when others use it). i mean i try not to say it and i rarely do but others use it as they please.

I find it funny when people take offense to this word. this word was used and Still is as a negative word. But now everyone uses this word and especially alot of African Americans (AA) i mean its in songs and even used as a greeting by both AA and other Ethnic people. i mean no offense but i dont know how some AA people get pissed when others use it .

yet they call each other this particular word that Whites made up for them as an insulting word. Yet they try to use this word as a greeting or another way. and they get pissed in the process when others say it around them. Why i find it funny is cus of this reason, why should they get mad at others when they are already demeaning them selves by calling their friends or singing along to lyrics that have these particular words in it? They should be apologizing to their ancestry for using that word.

Also another reason is that they were not even born in that era and yet they act as if they were the ones getting bashed. Yes ancestry wise they did ,but not directly in this era they are living in . Because of this reason shouldnt they know that that word no matter how they try to make it less oppressive is already in its self oppressive,when they do not allow others to call this word out. yet they so right fully call each other that word. making them already demean themselves in the process by using that (white word) that insulted their ancestors.

I think in a way by them using the "N" word they feel as they have some power over this word by playing it off as a joke, but the moment they lash out at others u notice that no matter how hard u try to disguise the word as not being hurtful and trying to play it off as a joke, It is not.

The moment u do not allow other to use it , u have already given the "N" word power in the "white side aspect" . because u are doing exactly what they did back then, by separating urself and discriminating others that are perhaps Are not even causing harm and were just using that word as a greeting to their friends, or sing to a song. But someone just happened to hear it and was an AA and felt angry that u used it and hurt u for that reason. That AA, has now given the "N" word that they tried hard to make as a light joke gain its true power once again. by opressing them when perhaps they should have just excepted it as a greeting. but this time they intern gave the "N" word even more power by making them in a way be looked upon as a cruel too by discriminate an innocent person that probably was just following mainstream lingo or music or just trying to admire their way of culture and speech. Yet instead they are making another cycle in creating a hatred barrier against them, instead of unifying themselves with other cultures.

Everyone uses it, because it is seen as a normal thing now, and if someone were to perhaps call u out because of this what is their reasoning? because they feel offended ? When u didnt even direct that word to them how can they be offended, when they offend themselves,

As well as it being a mainstream that person could have been talking to their friends and got called out for using it when they too might have probably just greeting their friends or singing some lyrics. . No need to get angry, it cant be helped its a mainstream word .that singers and people that follow them made it become mainstream nobody should be encouraging or even be saying this word. In fact the people we should be angry at now is the media and music companies in trying to pass this oppressive word as common everyday lingo and once again trying to create a barrier in todays society. This word no matter how u use it still inflicts pain to others and brings up bad memories to those that learned the meaning of what these words meant. Not only to one side but the both. So it always better if u can make the effort not to pass it off as a common thing or everyday greeting just for the heck of it.


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Hmm....

My feelings on the issue are quite complicated.

Let me preface this by saying that I don't use the word or any variation of it. There are many reasons why, but the primary reason is simply because I don't tend to use that kind of slang in general.

As for it's use ~ what follows is just my personal opinion.

When I was younger, I disliked the fact that other black people tossed out this variation of the word so casually, but i've chnaged my mind.

Basically, the variation you occasionally hear in Black slang is the appropriation of a negative word. It's taking something that was meant as an insult and triumphing over it by turning it into a term of brotherhood and fraternity. There are other examples like this ~ I remember seeing an article about Hinomoto Oniko that I think illustrates an analogous situation.

However, I do think that only black people should be able to use any variation of the word. Why? Because i personally just don't feel like a member of another ethnicity can properly appreciate the "reversal" of the word. If you have no history with the original ethnic slur, I feel like the other variations lose the necessary context to make them expressions of brotherhood.

I'll give you another example. On my mother's side of the family, they occasionally call each other "monkey" as a term of endearment. It's like an inside joke and it's meant in an affectionate and loving way. If someone else where to call a member of my mother's family "monkey" - even if they meant it in that same endearing way - it's still odd and perhaps even inappropriate because it's divorced from context.

That's just my opinion - but take it with a grain of salt. I've already changed it once, after all lol



U got ma thinking just in more simpler words .lol

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Posted 3/15/15 , edited 3/15/15
Nothing wrong with it, means my bro, homie, a term of endearment, although personally I feel uncomfortable saying it, must be that social wiring.

Not to be confused with the version that ends in "er". Don't say that one.
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Posted 3/15/15
It makes you sound un-intelligent and un-educated. Regardless of rules or how you use it.
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This is what bothers me about people thinking the word is "harmless", including other African Americans. Hearing others say it day to day is something I don't like to hear. I scold family members about saying it, even got into a few pretty intense verbal confrontation with a few of them for using that term. I keep hearing people say its 2015, big deal,thats in the past,etc...I don't believe that to be true. I live in a Town in NY, its mostly free of serious crimes and is very diverse in terms of race.I run and walk a lot and this happened to me on multiple occasions,both near the street I live on and have lived on for the past 20 years. On a walk/run, hear a car passing, see a few white guys in the car scream out "niggeeeer". One time this guy stuck like half his body out the car and screamed it while he went past. If you read my last post on this,you can tell I'm not a fan of anything derived from the word "nigger". The fact is, I still believe it is a disgusting word and for good reason.
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Posted 3/15/15
I'll make this VERY simple:

I don't use it. I threatened my kid with an inch of her life for using it. When my parents used it I call it them the dumbest mofos on the planet.

When a white guy I knew started to defend his right to use it, I told him that unless he was relaying quotes or reported speech I didn't want to hear it. He kept going and I no longer speak to him.

The English language is colorful enough without it. It's not execution, it's called retirement.

P.S. the writer is a Blk dude.
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I grew up in the middle of the prairie, in as white-as-it-gets North Dakota. There were no colored people in my home town when I lived there.(Seriously.... there was almost no ethnic diversity at all. There was the white folks and the Native Americans and that was about it. I think there was one Filipino girl I went to school with.)
The only time I ever heard anyone using "that" term was in a derogatory way, and that has a major influence how I view it.

I find it offensive, regardless of who says it, pretty much in any context or in most any form. I have never personally heard it used it in a positive way.
(I see some people have accounts of using it in a constructive way.)

If it's someone I know I usually inform them not to say that word in my presence. Others, for the most part, I ignore.

It's interesting but I rarely hear that word anywhere but on TV.

I don't know if this will change....
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Posted 3/15/15
I think it makes things that much more hilarious when used appropriately.
It's the same idea as comedians getting amped and screaming profanity. For some reason, it's just hysterical when placed correctly.


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Posted 3/15/15
Not in my vocabulary.
Posted 3/15/15 , edited 3/15/15
Maybe it's an environment thing, I just don't come across people who use it.
It's unnecessary and don't really get what the need is to use such words like Bro, Sis or whatever.
I use words like 'friendo' or 'my friend' to show that i'm not really close to you so back off. I also use people's full name to that effect.
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Let's ask ourselves a few questions first before we decide on whether or not the "N" word is okay to use:

1. Is the "N" word absolutely necessary to get have whatever it is you're saying across to your audience?
Example: Can "Wassup Bro!" be a meaningful substitution for "My Ni__a!"? Some social groups contend that it does, not convey the same meaning, due to the sensitivity of the word, it's to emphasize exclusivity in that social group.

2. Is it used in an artistic or literary way, including use as political emphasis?
Example: rap music, The Boondocks, movies about slavery, etc.

3. Is it in pursuit of some academic endeavor?
Example: This post, which seems to want to draw some data on how people feel the word should be used.

4. Does it offend anyone who may see, hear or otherwise come across the word, exceptions being the 3 points I made above?

If you answered yes for 1-3, I say go for it. If you answered yes to 4, I would highly discourage it's use, but it is free speech, so I'm not gonna say don't ever use it.
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Posted 3/15/15 , edited 3/15/15
Nigga, nigger = words only the uneducated use.
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