Post Reply Wanting Two Levels of Comment Spoilers
Rosyna 
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Posted 3/12/15 , edited 3/20/15
Is there anyway we could get an additional type of "Spoiler" for comments on episodes?

- Spoilers that spoil content in the current episode.
- Spoilers that from people that have read the source material (manga) and spoil upcoming events in the series.

After I've watched an episode, I'll often go through the comment thread clicking to reveal spoilers with the assumption they talk about key events in the just watched episode. However, sometimes (like for Parasyte or Naruto or Fairy Tail), comments talk about the ending of the current arc, a future arc, are extremely important events near the end of the series.

I personally don't want to see those latter kind of spoilers but there's no way to see if such a spoiler comment falls into that category.

Please. Pretty Please. Sigh.
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Posted 3/12/15

Rosyna wrote:

Is there anyway we could get an additional type of "Spoiler" for comments on episodes?

- Spoilers that spoil content in the current episode.
- Spoilers that from people that have read the source material (manga) and spoil upcoming events in the series.

After I've watched an episode, I'll often go through the comment thread clicking to reveal spoilers with the assumption they talk about key events in the just watched episode. However, sometimes (like for Parasyte or Naruto or Fairy Tail), comments talk about the ending of the current arc, a future arc, are extremely important events near the end of the series.

I personally don't want to see those latter kind of spoilers but there's no way to see if such a spoiler comment falls into that category.

Please. Pretty Please. Sigh.


This is something that comes up a lot with us mods (in part because of the number of reports). Unmarked episode spoilers get reported. Comments that are future spoilers, but are marked as spoilers, get reported. It's a tough balance, and we try to respond appropriately.

One idea I had was to say spoiler means future spoiler - either from the source material, future episodes, etc. Current episode or past episode comments don't need the spoiler tag, so comments should be read and posted on an episode after viewing.

What do you think of that kind of setup?
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Posted 3/12/15
Well, there is (at least) one other type of spoiler, and there are probably others.

When someone brings up a different show than is being discussed in the current thread for comparison or whatever, someone may not have watched it yet.. Like this total reveal for School Days (even though it's hard to believe everyone doesn't know this yet):

So I kind of agree with OP in that there needs to be some kind of label we can attach to be nice. OTOH, I agree with MakotoKamui that we shouldn't need to spoiler something in the show thread after it has "aired" here.

But a big part of the problem, in my opinion, is that the definition of what constitutes a spoiler here is simply not defined in the rules, so everyone uses their own personal definition, which, of course, is not going to be the same for everyone. If the rules were actually defined, then someone has a case to complain or not.
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Posted 3/12/15

asharka wrote:

But a big part of the problem, in my opinion, is that the definition of what constitutes a spoiler here is simply not defined in the rules, so everyone uses their own personal definition, which, of course, is not going to be the same for everyone. If the rules were actually defined, then someone has a case to complain or not.


I agree, and want to make sure that a definition for spoiler is included in future rule sets, or at least guideline posts so that everyone can agree on what's allowed or not, no matter what the ultimate solution for spoiler tags is.

For my above option, I was mostly going for something that wouldn't require additional coding on the site side, since we could implement that far faster, but I want to hear other ideas (like the OP's) as well. I try to respond to a lot of the reports about spoilers for the same reason, to get a feel for what would be the best approach, what exactly should be considered a spoiler, that kind of thing.
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Posted 3/13/15 , edited 3/13/15
I think asharka actually found the solution. A new ability to annotate spoiler content in episode comments. This would require a code change, sadly.

Just by being able to say "Like this total reveal for School Days", I knew I wouldn't be happy if I read the spoiler (I haven't been able to finish School Days for various reasons). That ability in episode comments (maybe an addition field?) would fully address my desire.

I personally don't understand why people would read comments before watching an episode, but a large number do. When I comment on episodes, I take that into consideration.

I'm not fond of the deletion of information, so I support anything that could help (like spoiler annotations) to reduce the amount of information mods need to delete.
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Posted 3/13/15

Rosyna wrote:

Just by being able to say "Like this total reveal for School Days", I knew I wouldn't be happy if I read the spoiler (I haven't been able to finish School Days for various reasons). That ability in episode comments (maybe an addition field?) would fully address my desire.

Those who wish to be extra considerate can post a comment stating what type spoiler they are posting, and then reply to their own comment with the spoiler (marked as such).

Rosyna 
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Posted 3/13/15
Sadly, many posters don't do that. And Crunchyroll's current comment system makes it harder to post two consecutive comments in the same thread. When you post a comment in a thread, the submit button in that thread becomes disabled until you reload. Probably to prevent people from spamming a comment thread.

And a comment saying "The next comment will be a spoiler about blah blah" will be rated differently than the comment with the actual spoiler and thus may not be seen by people.
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Posted 3/22/15 , edited 3/22/15
I can see this suggestion potentially being viable... I personally read comments after watching an episode and do click through spoilers at my own risk. But I thought I'd experiment with how something like this could work for fun...

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