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Posted 3/14/15

DrTeath wrote:

Trolls these days have really lost the soul of what it used to mean to be a troll.

Real trolling is an art form , not this singular intent to cause chaos and anger by any means attitude that dominates today. Sigh.


It's not clever anymore, is it?
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Posted 3/14/15

VZ68 wrote:

Thought Police and an Echo Chamber.

Problem is most people call people who disagree with their, ALWAYS CORRECT, ideas, well, trolls. This is not the case. If you are so mentally weak that you can not defend your ideas without calling in mommy and daddy, it's time to take a break from the internet hugbox and harden the fuck up.

And calling trolls evil, that's just silly.

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I agree.
Posted 3/14/15 , edited 3/14/15

DrTeath wrote:

Trolls these days have really lost the soul of what it used to mean to be a troll.

Real trolling is an art form , not this singular intent to cause chaos and anger by any means attitude that dominates today. Sigh.


How was trolling better in your day? Was it when 4chan and encyclopedia dramatica were more popular.
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Well...that Moutain Dew really burned coming out of my nose. Thanks for the painful, but hilarious statement.
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Posted 3/14/15

nanikore2 wrote:

Sometimes people start theads just to get others upset or angry at them and subsequently lure others into heated debates (almost always about religion).

What makes them that way? More importantly, how can they be helped? (I do think they need help.)


A heated debate is fine.

Anyway.

People troll because they need to feel better about themselves and that's probably because of their lack of self-worth.
Helping them is a noble goal, but I think non-intervention is the only way forward. What I mean by that is they have to be ignored and the mods should take care of it.

They should be helped only if they want it.
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Posted 3/14/15
If people let themselves be trolled, they deserve it.

You choose yourself what you want to get annoyed with...
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Posted 3/14/15 , edited 3/14/15

How was trolling better in your day? Was it when 4chan and encyclopedia dramatica were more popular.



I honestly couldnt comment on those sites, as ive never been a patron .

But the good trolls used to be able to troll you without being blatant about it.

A good example would be someone who enters a discussion that has 2 obvious sides , and creates a 3rd side .
This third side would be well thought out , creative , and manage to pervert the intitial topic .

For instnace, my brother used to be a member of cyber societies . One day, they were having a pro life\pro choice discussion .
He saw this as a chance to troll . So he created a third argument . That Abortion should be ENFORCED. His initial post was well thought out , had many points to make , and made everyone else go ape shit . It was presented in such a way that all involved believed this was his actual view , and only a few even suspected it was a total troll.

That how a real troll operates. It is an art form.

Trolls these days are little more than children making fart noises in a microphone.
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Posted 3/14/15
I kind of agree with the "art form" sentiment.

I don't support people stirring up trouble just because they can -- surely there's better ways to use everyone's time. But trolling does seem a bit *too* easy around here. It doesn't take much to get a whole lot of users up in arms about nonsense.

Maybe when the Internet was newer people had less investment in what went on, and could see it from a few steps back? And now they take everything at face value because they don't pause to think about "I'm seeing this message from some anonymous person in another part of the world who I can't really expect has any investment in this subject."

Although undoubtedly I'm viewing things with a false nostalgia and people have always been easy prey for simple trolls.
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Posted 3/14/15
As far as "helping" trolls ... I don't think intentional trolling is something to cure. It's being done intentionally.

If you recognize a post for the flaws in it, calling them out and educating the "prey" users, that may help. If the person really is socially awkward and not trolling on purpose, then explain how you can't get involved with the topic as they have presented, suggest alternate ways to begin a discussion and point out what is wrong -- and then stick to it.
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Posted 3/14/15 , edited 3/14/15
Here, this story explains a troll's mindset.

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Posted 3/14/15
Has anyone ever heard of a good troll? What's a good troll?




























A banned troll would be a good troll but that's beyond the point I guess?
Posted 3/14/15

severticas wrote:

OP, have a nice lemon drizzle cupcake with tea and think of ways to make your threads more interesting. You might just be jealous.



Lemon drizzle cupcake? That sounds awful.
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Posted 3/14/15

nanikore2 wrote:


forkberry wrote:

Why do they need help? Hobbies are hobbies. No hobby is superior to another, individuals put their own values into them. If they're having fun, let them be.


To me, having fun at the expense of others is a form of evil, because the lack of regard for others.


you know what you can do? just walk away from the computer screen, don't look at the forum, close your eyes? it's like the cyber bullying thing, just shut off the computer or turn off the the phone, but whatever
Posted 3/14/15

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severticas wrote:

OP, have a nice lemon drizzle cupcake with tea and think of ways to make your threads more interesting. You might just be jealous.



Lemon drizzle cupcake? That sounds awful.


How so?
Posted 3/14/15

severticas wrote:


Urboistar wrote:


severticas wrote:

OP, have a nice lemon drizzle cupcake with tea and think of ways to make your threads more interesting. You might just be jealous.



Lemon drizzle cupcake? That sounds awful.


How so?


I don't like lemons

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