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Should Video Recording Police Be Illegal?
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Posted 3/16/15
Unless your in there way then yes it should be legal however unless you captured the entire episode the it shouldn't be allowed in a court of law. In most normal circumstances recording a cop is usually the aftermath of something instead of what lead to the point.
" Let do a hypothetical situation if a guy had an gun and was running from the cops after shooting it while running he throws the gun after he turns a corner and for some reason you were recording something else so you already have you phone recording and you see a guy running and a cop chasing him man turns around and the cop shoots him you would only have a recording of an unarmed man turning around being shot by a cop, but how would the cop know this in the heat of the moment after all this guy already shot at him earlier but the media will blast this guy from the tape alone" That is why I wouldn't support using half a tape in a courtroom unless they capture the entire thing.

I know one other problem people were debating about was the cameras on cops, was if they captured something on tape and the cop didn't notice until a later date should that person still be cited or arrested. How long should they keep footage and how will they store it. Afterall it takes so many gigs to store videos.
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severticas wrote:


deer wrote:

hmmm I wonder why they would ban the act of recording the police... down south... where racism is prevalent... hmm... the tea is hot

OF COURSE IT SHOULD BE LEGAL then again eric garner's murder got caught on tape and the police still got off scot free so they don't even need to implement such an obviously racist idiotic 'law'


It's also not something that should be relied upon. The camera, what it captures is impersonal. It might even, despite helping your case, be a hindrance if you're not thinking about how the other side will take you down.


i already acknowledged that video evidence is often disregarded anyway and i don't even know how your comment is relevant to my post lmao
Posted 3/16/15

tenchi22 wrote:

If you are on your own or public property you can tape anything you want; unless you are directly obstructing the police in carring out their duty's. The American constitution should over rule state laws.


It's does trump every other law, federal or state cause of the supremacy clause. However it's subject to interpretation by the courts.

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No it should not be illegal. If police don't like it they should stop abusing their authority. Maybe in another 50 years they can improve their dismal reputation. In the meantime the public needs to do whatever it can to hold them accountable.
Posted 3/16/15

deer wrote:


severticas wrote:


deer wrote:

hmmm I wonder why they would ban the act of recording the police... down south... where racism is prevalent... hmm... the tea is hot

OF COURSE IT SHOULD BE LEGAL then again eric garner's murder got caught on tape and the police still got off scot free so they don't even need to implement such an obviously racist idiotic 'law'


It's also not something that should be relied upon. The camera, what it captures is impersonal. It might even, despite helping your case, be a hindrance if you're not thinking about how the other side will take you down.


i already acknowledged that video evidence is often disregarded anyway and i don't even know how your comment is relevant to my post lmao


Oh really? Why is it disregarded?

Posted 3/16/15 , edited 3/16/15

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Unless your in there way then yes it should be legal however unless you captured the entire episode the it shouldn't be allowed in a court of law. In most normal circumstances recording a cop is usually the aftermath of something instead of what lead to the point.
" Let do a hypothetical situation if a guy had an gun and was running from the cops after shooting it while running he throws the gun after he turns a corner and for some reason you were recording something else so you already have you phone recording and you see a guy running and a cop chasing him man turns around and the cop shoots him you would only have a recording of an unarmed man turning around being shot by a cop, but how would the cop know this in the heat of the moment after all this guy already shot at him earlier but the media will blast this guy from the tape alone" That is why I wouldn't support using half a tape in a courtroom unless they capture the entire thing.

I know one other problem people were debating about was the cameras on cops, was if they captured something on tape and the cop didn't notice until a later date should that person still be cited or arrested. How long should they keep footage and how will they store it. Afterall it takes so many gigs to store videos.


That might be an unreasonable standard given that courts are inclined to take police at their word, far less reliable than any video. Also, even if it doesn't capture the entire encounter a video may still have value, it just one tool for courts to establish what actually happened.

Of course there are plenty of cases like this:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/18/local/la-me-sheriff-credibility-20110919
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130705/13300123724/cops-union-rep-lie-about-what-video-shows-because-judge-never-allowed-recording-as-evidence.shtml


As for video, modern codecs are pretty efficient and storage is cheap. Also police already store video from the cameras in their patrol cars along with digital evidence collected by warrants etc. Procedures for the handling and storage of evidence has been pretty well established over the years. Also, I believe double jeopardy would apply if case had already been tried unless what was missed could be counted as a separate crime.
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Posted 3/16/15
Two words: Hell no.
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Posted 3/16/15
Aren't they already using body cams on officers in Texas like Dallas and such?

Also, the possible bill is set at 25ft. Kind of wondering for places with outside security cams like food places and stores. Kind of wondering for people with dashcams and GoPros. That would be some weird technicality.

Personally, out in the public, there is no expectation of privacy. Cop or not, that is pretty much free game like much of the country.
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Posted 3/16/15
I should pay more attention to my own damn state...

...then again when I do, more often than not, well...



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Posted 3/16/15
It shouldn't be illegal because it would help out to see the real situation.
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As long as you are not interrupting an arrest I think videotaping is good for both the honest cops and citizens. That way there is no disputing what happened. If you are doing your job properly you have nothing to worry about, heck the video will even help you in court if the criminal pulls some bs in his or her defense.
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Posted 3/16/15
Police abuse is on the decline in my state Connecticut when they made it legal to video tape police. Less likely to abuse power if you know you are on camera
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Posted 3/16/15 , edited 3/16/15
Police are public servants, so I think it's fine to record video of them if they are not doing their job.

Fun fact: police are not responsible for your safety.
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Nope. This is utter crap. The police should have nothing to hide if there doing there jobs correctly and hopefully this will help us weed out the ones who arent.
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Posted 3/16/15

Should Video Recording Police Be Illegal?


NO!

If it is made illegal, the first question I have to ask is , "What are they trying to hide?"

More jurisdictions are getting body-cams and one thing has become clear, when the video is running the cops and the rest of the public suddenly have manners. That is how it is supposed to be.
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