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Post Reply Barack Obama acknowledges support for Forced Voting
Posted 3/19/15

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i'll wait till BlueOni weighs in on this to make a decision


You should think for yourself instead of relying on others to think for you.


thank you for your unwanted opinion i'll take it into consideration ^^
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thank you for your unwanted opinion i'll take it into consideration ^^


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Posted 3/19/15 , edited 3/19/15
Mandatory voting is a ridiculous concept ,and would require a Constitutional Amendment from a Congress that can't even pass budget items it's already approved .Future Supreme Courts will revisit Citizens United, and I suspect the resulting precedent will represent a 180 from it's current ruling.
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Posted 3/19/15
More people need to vote so corporate interest is less prevalent in our government.
Posted 3/19/15

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Mandatory voting will never happen. That would be limiting the freedom of the citizens. Voting is no longer a choice when it is forced. There is no way it would pass House, Senate and Congress. It wouldn't even make it to the President's desk.


You know that your freedom to vote actually outranks your first amendment right?

That it's so damned important that you vote unimpeded of influence or coercion (meaning forcing you to vote for a particular party), that they actually restrict the first amendment rights of others while you vote.

I worked the polls last year during the election.The district I was working had several issues, including a write in candidate for a local office not respecting the distance required from the polls for campaigning We actually had to have the police come and enforce the border to maintain impartial votes. We had to remove all campaign materials from the voters view while others where waiting in line to vote. We adamantly refused to tell voters the name of said write in because it would be in violation of voting regulations and could be taken as coercing or influencing the vote.

People really have no idea how serious that shit is..


Better sort that out first and maybe pay people who work the poll a little more. It's quite funny someone would ask you lot for what another voted for.

Work the poll he he he
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Posted 3/19/15 , edited 3/19/15
Nothing defines freedom like "mandatory"

I expected nothing less from a Liberal.

Won't pass anyways, so I could care less.
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I DON'T LIVE IN AMERICA, SO FUCK YOU AND YOUR STATES
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Posted 3/19/15

severticas wrote:


serifsansserif wrote:


Khaltazar wrote:

Mandatory voting will never happen. That would be limiting the freedom of the citizens. Voting is no longer a choice when it is forced. There is no way it would pass House, Senate and Congress. It wouldn't even make it to the President's desk.


You know that your freedom to vote actually outranks your first amendment right?

That it's so damned important that you vote unimpeded of influence or coercion (meaning forcing you to vote for a particular party), that they actually restrict the first amendment rights of others while you vote.

I worked the polls last year during the election.The district I was working had several issues, including a write in candidate for a local office not respecting the distance required from the polls for campaigning We actually had to have the police come and enforce the border to maintain impartial votes. We had to remove all campaign materials from the voters view while others where waiting in line to vote. We adamantly refused to tell voters the name of said write in because it would be in violation of voting regulations and could be taken as coercing or influencing the vote.

People really have no idea how serious that shit is..


Better sort that out first and maybe pay people who work the poll a little more. It's quite funny someone would ask you lot for what another voted for.

Work the poll he he he


Easy $200 for the day. Tax free for most people. (it gets a 1099 form).

Basically it's sitting at a table saying, "sign here" or pressing a button.

The district I was at was unusual in this. Still, for a population of maybe 1000 people of voting age, it probably only got about 300 people to turn out because it wasn't a presidential election... (it did, however, vote on a congressmen, which, may arguably, be more important)

It's about 12-16 hours of work too. I can't remember the open and close times for the poll.
Posted 3/19/15
I like how so many people just blindly start up the hatred of Obama instead of looking into what was really said for themselves. He may not be the best president ever but he isn't an idiot who would actually try and get mandatory voting put into place.


It's pretty much what I would expect from the people here though so whatever.
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Posted 3/19/15 , edited 3/19/15

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I like how so many people just blindly start up the hatred of Obama instead of looking into what was really said for themselves. He may not be the best president ever but he isn't an idiot who would actually try and get mandatory voting put into place.


It's pretty much what I would expect from the people here though so whatever.


Hatred of Obama... lol! So? he's nothing to love.

He's really not that much different than that jackass called Dubya.

Whatever he meant, Mandatory voting is stupid when we're talking about the United States, it's not going to happen, period.
They can't claim that we live in a constitutional republic, then tell their citizens that "you have to do this and that because, reasons...."

We're not Australia or any other country. The sad part is, when people from these said counties who are accustomed to these kinds of laws learn that the U.S doesn't have the same shitty laws, they become shocked and awe, it literately becomes a bash the U.S.A shit show.

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For those that don't want to vote you are part of the system you benefit from it don't claim you don't that is cognitive dissidents, you do receive befits from the government in many forms. Now if you aren't in the states thats fine you still get some benefits from teh government that represents you.

Several things needs to happen for this to work.

1. Voting day needs to become a federal holiday. Or better yet just move to a vote by mail system, the states that use that have a very high turn out normally.
2. Four amendments to the Constitution
The first allows this and makes voting a right and responsibility of all citizens. Right now a good attorney can weasel you out of this by saying voting isn't a right. or responsibility.
Second amendment money isn't speech turn it back into property and make it so you can't just crank to volume on what is being said money doesn't talk never has people talk they use money to increase the volume of that speech not the same thing.
Third Corporation are not people we need to clearly define what a person.
Fourth Representational voting this allows for many parties to be formed you vote for the party that best fights your world view. This actually works pretty well where it is used.
3. When you get your drivers license or state ID card you are automatically signed up to vote.

For those against these types of ideas I will ask you one question what type of government do you want? If you don't take part in it you have no right to complain about the government you get.

Lastly if you really are against this I have a sure fired solution only allow those that server the country in some from be it military or non military IE Peace Corps or some other government body the right to vote and only allow them the ability to run for office. I understand the power of the vote the more people that vote the more power to the people and less power the the oligarchs.
Posted 3/19/15 , edited 3/19/15


Never said he was something to love. I'm just saying the ignorance of people here is astounding.

It doesn't matter if it isn't going to happen or not. It doesn't matter what it would mean constitutionally if it were put into place. None of that kind of thing matters.

His point was only about voter turnout and suppression. It was saying that things could be a lot different if more people got to the polls and actually made changes happen.

The people who claim they are making a point by not voting aren't actually doing anything at all. Republicans don't care because it helps them. Democrats care only if you were going to vote for them. In the end one of them still wins and nothing really changes. The people who choose not to vote to make a point need to realize that the best way to make a point about not being happy with the way things are going is to elect a president that will actually try to make good changes for the benefit of the people instead of for some corporation. Give both republicans and democrats a big "eff you" by electing someone from a completely different party.

And on the other side of things those who are getting denied the ability to vote would, hypothetically, be able to finally voice their opinion if it were mandatory and the point was that their opinion should be heard through their vote and that eliminating the suppression could help change things.

Also on the topic of voting though that isn't entirely related to this thread.....
Eff anyone who says the citizens of the U.S. Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, American Samoa and Puerto Rico shouldn't be allowed voting rights.
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Posted 3/19/15
I think this would be a good place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw
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I dislike this man.
Posted 3/19/15

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I dislike this man.


I dislike it looking like a link I can click but having to copy and paste it in order to watch it.


I agree though and dislike him as well.
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