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There has been a spark between the belief of religion for such a long time, with various amounts of information about each one, all with their own general aspects of a God.

But earlier in the week, I just go into thinking, could it be possible that we humans, are just tricking ourselves? The memories and personality we have is similar to an animal's instinct to survival, or personal pleasure. However, we are just more knowledgeable. By having this vast amount of knowledge, we could may as well be able to do all of the norm we do today.

Our body has been a carrier to us, the brain. The brain is the central system that controls the rest of your body, and stores your memories. Your brain takes all environmental factors into play, and make your personality. Having a personality, it stores it in your memories, which eventually becomes a part of you. But wouldn't that also mean that our intelligence is artificial and only to be served as a means of survival?

Now, to my real point.

Death.

Wouldn't that mean that our brain simply dies off and just rots? The memories that we have, all gone since we have reached our capacity.

What're your opinions?

Sorry if this was a bit difficult to understand.
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My opinion is nobody knows, there is no 1 true answer despite the religion or lack of one you may have.

If there is no soul then yes most likely we are our brains and when we die we just die. But is if there is a soul then who knows what happens. Maybe we go to a heaven or a hell, maybe we get reincarnated, or maybe we just go to a limbo of sorts where dead people party.

I try not to dwell whats after life and just stick to the here and now.
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Once you are brain-dead you cease to exist accordingly to secular society.

Once you are brain dead your soul goes somewhere else according to most religions.

Now if religion is a product of our higher intelligence or if it is the other way around... that is a contentious matter as I'm sure you are aware but you are free to think whatever you like.
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i first read religion, and i was like, "ohhh boy here we go again"
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kimchino wrote:

i first read religion, and i was like, "ohhh boy here we go again"


What can I say?

I'm curious.
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This thread may be named differently than the others, but I personally feel as a forum lurker this type of topic has already arisen too many times on CR. With that being said, all I ever can ever say to this query is: How about die and find out?
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MagicalBlade wrote:


kimchino wrote:

i first read religion, and i was like, "ohhh boy here we go again"


What can I say?

I'm curious.


being curious is good, i read the rest of the your topic and it was pretty interesting still cant quite grab the concept tho
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That's why you have to begin with faith in the world and your experience of it, a general morality, beauty and ugly and something beyond merely the material. If not you are left into a meaningless nihilism in which nothing matters and you are nothing.
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kimchino wrote:


MagicalBlade wrote:


kimchino wrote:

i first read religion, and i was like, "ohhh boy here we go again"


What can I say?

I'm curious.


being curious is good, i read the rest of the your topic and it was pretty interesting still cant quite grab the concept tho


I got thinking that after death, we lose everything our brain has stored, basically losing all of that in a microsecond.
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Maybe, I think a lot of people trick themselves by confusing belief with knowing,I think it's a coping mechanism since life can be harsh at times and having a since of security helps us get through the day. However maybe spiritual beliefs actually have roots in reality but I don't know nor will I act like I do. Like KyotoTofu said, "just stick to the here and now." And really ask yourself why it matters to you.
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MagicalBlade wrote:

There has been a spark between the belief of religion for such a long time, with various amounts of information about each one, all with their own general aspects of a God.

But earlier in the week, I just go into thinking, could it be possible that we humans, are just tricking ourselves? The memories and personality we have is similar to an animal's instinct to survival, or personal pleasure. However, we are just more knowledgeable. By having this vast amount of knowledge, we could may as well be able to do all of the norm we do today.

Our body has been a carrier to us, the brain. The brain is the central system that controls the rest of your body, and stores your memories. Your brain takes all environmental factors into play, and make your personality. Having a personality, it stores it in your memories, which eventually becomes a part of you. But wouldn't that also mean that our intelligence is artificial and only to be served as a means of survival?

Now, to my real point.

Death.

Wouldn't that mean that our brain simply dies off and just rots? The memories that we have, all gone since we have reached our capacity.

What're your opinions?

Sorry if this was a bit difficult to understand.


This is my guess. I believe what you said in that brains are our core in the same way the CPU is the core for a computer. If your CPU of your computer dies for any reason your computer becomes useless. You can relate this to the body. Your body minus the brain is like your computer without the CPU. So, if you can understand those relations the best guess one can make is your body just rots away (unless you are cremated, burned away) after your brain (CPU) dies. It's like being brain dead, a hospital can keep your body components alive for a while, but you're just a shell at that point.

I mean, I would really like for something different to happen when we die, but I can't accept that our brain is more special than a CPU (as they are mostly the same) so our fate would be that as a CPU.
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MagicalBlade wrote:

There has been a spark between the belief of religion for such a long time, with various amounts of information about each one, all with their own general aspects of a God.

But earlier in the week, I just go into thinking, could it be possible that we humans, are just tricking ourselves? The memories and personality we have is similar to an animal's instinct to survival, or personal pleasure. However, we are just more knowledgeable. By having this vast amount of knowledge, we could may as well be able to do all of the norm we do today.

Our body has been a carrier to us, the brain. The brain is the central system that controls the rest of your body, and stores your memories. Your brain takes all environmental factors into play, and make your personality. Having a personality, it stores it in your memories, which eventually becomes a part of you. But wouldn't that also mean that our intelligence is artificial and only to be served as a means of survival?

Now, to my real point.

Death.

Wouldn't that mean that our brain simply dies off and just rots? The memories that we have, all gone since we have reached our capacity.

What're your opinions?

Sorry if this was a bit difficult to understand.


This is my guess. I believe what you said in that brains are our core in the same way the CPU is the core for a computer. If your CPU of your computer dies for any reason your computer becomes useless. You can relate this to the body. Your body minus the brain is like your computer without the CPU. So, if you can understand those relations the best guess one can make is your body just rots away (unless you are cremated, burned away) after your brain (CPU) dies. It's like being brain dead, a hospital can keep your body components alive for a while, but you're just a shell at that point.

I mean, I would really like for something different to happen when we die, but I can't accept that our brain is more special than a CPU (as they are mostly the same) so our fate would be that as a CPU.


A CPU is not conscious.
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A CPU is not conscious.


A brain is? There is currently no way to prove you are conscious that you cannot also apply to a computer CPU.

"I think, therefore I am."
A computer does as well, does that mean a computer has a conscious?
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pandrasb wrote:

A CPU is not conscious.


A brain is? There is currently no way to prove you are conscious that you cannot also apply to a computer CPU.

"I think, therefore I am."
A computer does as well, does that mean a computer has a conscious?


A computer doesn't think, it just follows its program. It's as dumb as a rock. It has no will of it's own.
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MagicalBlade wrote:

There has been a spark between the belief of religion for such a long time, with various amounts of information about each one, all with their own general aspects of a God.

But earlier in the week, I just go into thinking, could it be possible that we humans, are just tricking ourselves? The memories and personality we have is similar to an animal's instinct to survival, or personal pleasure. However, we are just more knowledgeable. By having this vast amount of knowledge, we could may as well be able to do all of the norm we do today.

Our body has been a carrier to us, the brain. The brain is the central system that controls the rest of your body, and stores your memories. Your brain takes all environmental factors into play, and make your personality. Having a personality, it stores it in your memories, which eventually becomes a part of you. But wouldn't that also mean that our intelligence is artificial and only to be served as a means of survival?

Now, to my real point.

Death.

Wouldn't that mean that our brain simply dies off and just rots? The memories that we have, all gone since we have reached our capacity.

What're your opinions?

Sorry if this was a bit difficult to understand.


Yes.
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