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do japanese have any morals
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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08

n_n303 wrote:


foranyonewhocares wrote:

man, u talk and want answers but u dont actually listen to wat someone is saying if u dont agree with it. u just block out something that might change ur views just a little bit.


its like talking to a wall, no point. there is no use in going on about this discussion, the person who started this topic isnt even replying back anymore.


yea, i agree with u, i hope he finally realized that, but thats only hoping
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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08
woooooooooooooow lack of info much

First of all, you know who watches anime over in Japan? Little Kids, and since they aren't watching what you obviously find all over the internet (ahem, *cough cough*), that must mean that non-japanese people are the ones looking at it. Most Loli isn't even MADE in Japan, it's made once again by foreigners.

The Japanese avoid touching others, let alone molesting others on a daily basis. Etiquette and morals are very big there and they are very friendly people who go out of their way to help others, more so than Americans can say.

so yes, they have morals, most definitely.
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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08

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kitanaikoneko wrote:
thats funny but guess what were not makeing dvds of anime children
and selling them in stores at the mall

like i said every country has child porn and black market sells it

but not every country like japan finds it ok for children anime or real
to be depicted in sexual acts with a adult

and then to sell it in a store or over the net legealy
sorry but doing that is just wroung

child porn in america is ilegal


I agree that anime child porn being legal in Japan is absolutely ridiculous, and that something should be done about it, but the point I was making is that you can't say that it's only the people of Japan who are being perverted, because there's a market for anime kiddy porn in other countries too, America for example. While it's not legal in America, there are Americans who get their weird kinky fetishes fulfilled by anime kiddy porn, and would legalize it if given the option. You can't just say "what's wrong with the japanese people's morals" But maybe you can say, "what's wrong with the japanese people's lawmakers"


Legal? Teh fawk? Say, you got any valid source to prove this?
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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08

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metalduck wrote:

I agree that anime child porn being legal in Japan is absolutely ridiculous, and that something should be done about it, but the point I was making is that you can't say that it's only the people of Japan who are being perverted, because there's a market for anime kiddy porn in other countries too, America for example. While it's not legal in America, there are Americans who get their weird kinky fetishes fulfilled by anime kiddy porn, and would legalize it if given the option. You can't just say "what's wrong with the japanese people's morals" But maybe you can say, "what's wrong with the japanese people's lawmakers"


and how are you so sure its legal? Like i said did you go to japan and catch a 12 year old buying porno? Did you go into every store and find lolli and hentai dvds where anyone can buy it? I demand proof.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pornography_laws_by_country#Japan

As in Europe, photographs of nudes are not uncommon in the mainstream media. In the 1970s and 1980s, the strongest prohibition was against showing pubic hair or adult genitalia. Imported magazines would have the pubic hair scratched out, and even the most explicit videos could not portray it. Starting around 1991, photobook publishers began challenging this ban to the point where pubic hair is now fairly well accepted. Close-ups of genitalia remain proscribed. In 1999, the government enacted a law banning photos and videos of naked children, which were a fairly common sight in mainstream media before that time. Manga and anime remain largely unregulated, although large publishers tend to self-censor (which is rare if compared to the United States, as nudity is more accepted in Japan) or specify that characters are at least 18 years of age.

-I never said anything about 12 year old's buying porno in japan, and i didn't say anything about lolicon hentai vids being common in japan, i only said that it was legal.
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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08
So, what you're saying that people who make real porn in America and Europe have less morals than people who make Anime porn in Japan, and that is your only argument, yeah. Its like saying that most of the worlds porn supplies comes from japan which it doesn't. So this is pretty much only the bad side, considering most Anime is not porn. And killing, are you saying that people who kill have morals because last time I checked, that sempt to be worse that Anime porn which DOESN'T EXIST IN REALITY AND INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO AREN'T REAL, meanwhile others make porn WHICH IS REAL AND INCLUDES REAL PEOPLE, and others just kill, but killing is legal and is a moral filled activity.
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no one who endorses dance dance revolution can have bad morals
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yeah and quote something other than wiki
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kitanaikoneko wrote:

...and i dont see american europeans or australins makeing lolikon do you ?
sure every county makes child porn and its illegal with good reason
so how come lolikon is legal in japan
why do they find it ok to make anime child porn...

...thats not sexual for the norm
its disgusting its pedo porn


lol I'm realy sorry to disapoint you, but lolicon is leagal in the U.S. and there are American athors/artists that create this stuff. You must also take into consideration that lolicon is not considered normal, healthy or moraly sound vewing material by the general public in Japan. Censorship, however, is always going to be diferent in each country.. Japan's entertainment industry was not founded on the same Christain ethics that western were originaly run by.

Haha, and yes it is pedo porn.
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"The United States has the world's highest rape rate of the countries that publish such statistics. It's 4 times higher than Germany, 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan."
http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ad361896/anne/cease/rapestatisticspage.html

do your research.
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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08
I bet most politicians don't even know of the lolicon ~_~

And those that know won't let the others know in fear of it becoming illegal : o

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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08

n_n303 wrote:


metalduck wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pornography_laws_by_country#Japan

As in Europe, photographs of nudes are not uncommon in the mainstream media. In the 1970s and 1980s, the strongest prohibition was against showing pubic hair or adult genitalia. Imported magazines would have the pubic hair scratched out, and even the most explicit videos could not portray it. Starting around 1991, photobook publishers began challenging this ban to the point where pubic hair is now fairly well accepted. Close-ups of genitalia remain proscribed. In 1999, the government enacted a law banning photos and videos of naked children, which were a fairly common sight in mainstream media before that time. Manga and anime remain largely unregulated, although large publishers tend to self-censor (which is rare if compared to the United States, as nudity is more accepted in Japan) or specify that characters are at least 18 years of age.

-I never said anything about 12 year old's buying porno in japan, and i didn't say anything about lolicon hentai vids being common in japan, i only said that it was legal.


my dear, that only states that japan accepts nudity more than other countries... lol try again..

no where there does it say that japan is legal.

and i agree with the quote bellow me..

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yeah and quote something other than wiki


wikipedia isnt such a great source, since anyone can edit it. Why do you think your school never allows wiki as a source. If you are going to bring proof, i suggest another source.


huhh.... okay ... sorry it was the first link that turned up.. But sheesh, you don't have to be so mean about it.. hang on for a second.. i'm doing another search.
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Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08

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I bet most politicians don't even know of the lolicon ~_~

And those that know won't let the others know in fear of it becoming illegal : o



I'm almost positive that it is illegal. As I stated earlier (which is fine if you didn't see it since it's on another page), in Japan the vast majority of people who watch anime are small children, who obviously aren't watching porn. Most of the Hentai and Loli are viewed by foreigners and are also consequently made by foreigners often if not most of the time.
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k... this one's from "anime news network" don't know how reliable it is, but here goes.

"The Japanese government's Cabinet Office issued on October 25 the results of its Special Opinion Poll on Harmful Materials, in which 86.5% of those who responded said that manga and art should be subject to regulation for child pornography, if they had to decide. 90.9% said that "harmful materials" on the Internet should be regulated, if they had to decide. The current child pornography laws in Japan do not regulate manga and art that depict children who are not real, or "virtual child pornography."

I'll try to find more verification.

EDIT: forgot to post the link
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-10-25/japanese-poll-87-percent-accept-manga-child-porn-regulation
Posted 2/4/08 , edited 4/21/08

metalduck wrote:


kitanaikoneko wrote:
thats funny but guess what were not makeing dvds of anime children
and selling them in stores at the mall

like i said every country has child porn and black market sells it

but not every country like japan finds it ok for children anime or real
to be depicted in sexual acts with a adult

and then to sell it in a store or over the net legealy
sorry but doing that is just wroung

child porn in america is ilegal


I agree that anime child porn being legal in Japan is absolutely ridiculous, and that something should be done about it, but the point I was making is that you can't say that it's only the people of Japan who are being perverted, because there's a market for anime kiddy porn in other countries too, America for example. While it's not legal in America, there are Americans who get their weird kinky fetishes fulfilled by anime kiddy porn, and would legalize it if given the option. You can't just say "what's wrong with the japanese people's morals" But maybe you can say, "what's wrong with the japanese people's lawmakers"





well at least someone aggrees that legal child porn in japan is insane
be it anime or real it premotes harm to are childrten of the world
i wasent saying japan is the only one lacking morals

i was useing this as a topic to back the fact the americans rude topic should be removed
not all americans are rude but the topic is directed at americans only

not all japanese lack morals
but i used this as a way to bring up the ever increasing lollikon anime

im sure many japanese are offended by this topic
and how there country finds it ok to premote child anime nudity
if not offended then you dont have any decent morals
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haha you can't spell (awww, catholic guilt has set in)
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