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Posted 3/20/15 , edited 3/20/15
Hello,
i was already Crunshyroll Premium member once 5 years ago. Back then it really pissed me off that i didnt get all the shows that Crunshyroll advertises just because im not in the US, but still have to pay almost the same price. Back then they promised like always "we try to get worldwide rights for all new anime" so I was observing to see how things change.
Now its almost 5 years later and nothing changed, the promise from back then seems nothing more then a good PR answer from the support.

Heres a comparison for the latest content on CR:
Large Version -> http://ot4ku.net/forum/cru_us_at.jpg


The sad result is:

48% of the Continuing Simulcast Titles
55% of the New Simulcast Titles
35% of the New Catalog Titles (!!)

Here is also a comparison of the Winter 2015 Simulcasts if someone is interested:
http://ot4ku.net/forum/cru_2015.jpg
Result = 52% are available

Really a bad result, I dont see anything improving for Europe (at least here in Austria). Is the Anime industry same hopeless as the Music industry? Even today the Anime community is small compared to others, so how can the difference this big in regions? Not even mentioning the price you pay for less content. Right now the Euro dropped a lot so the picture looks more fair, but still not even close.

Just wanted to point it out, I really would love to see all shows (CR will say of course they want that to) and have worldwide the same access to all content, a dream that never will come true I now realised.


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Posted 3/20/15

otaku7502 wrote:


The sad result is:

48% of the Continuing Simulcast Titles
55% of the New Simulcast Titles
35% of the New Catalog Titles (!!)

Pretty much what it would be here(Finland, Scandinavia in general) for a legal-only CR user.

But as I watch most things off CR, I get 100% on all three (if I ever needed the ability to choose among all).

But the sad truth is, these restrictions do result in that the option of 'going legal' isn't an option, at least for me as things currently stand, and probably for many others in more peripheral regions(a lot of shows I do watch tend to be among the restricted even if I wanted to watch them through CR). My CR subscription is simply a placeholder for now...
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Posted 3/20/15 , edited 3/20/15
You can rest assured that we are trying to acquire every offered title in all of the regions we are serving.
But as we are not the only company trying to get those streaming licenses, there is always a chance that another company places a higher bid, in particular by also bidding for the license to do a disc release. There are also instances of Japanese publishers not offering a show to be licensed for streaming in any or in a particular region.

As for the catalogue shows, the license situation is usually far more complex, as many of those movies and series were licensed for releases around the time they were first released/broadcast. These older licenses either have to be expired for us to be able to pick it up, or the current license holder has to opt for letting us stream it. The latter is the case for quite a few of the titles announced during the current season. To be able to offer those shows in all regions, all respective current regional license holders would have to agree to entering into a similar agreement, which is not quite that probable.

If you went back 18 months, the percentage of titles available titles in Austria would be closer to 0%. We're definitely improving.

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Posted 3/20/15

shinryou wrote:

We're definitely improving.


I can attest to that.

Crunchyroll has gradually been allowing more shows to stream in the Caribbean, which before had almost 1/5 shows on crunchyroll available.
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Posted 3/21/15
I know crunchyroll probably do their best to secure worldwide licensing rights for all the titles that they procure, and it can be a complicated process. But, what really annoys me is when there is only the second season of a show available in my territory. What is the point of that if I haven't seen the first season? Surely if you can get the rights to the second or further seasons, you could obtain the rights to the first.
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Posted 3/21/15

Astrometal wrote:

I know crunchyroll probably do their best to secure worldwide licensing rights for all the titles that they procure, and it can be a complicated process. But, what really annoys me is when there is only the second season of a show available in my territory. What is the point of that if I haven't seen the first season? Surely if you can get the rights to the second or further seasons, you could obtain the rights to the first.


If another company has the rights to that first season, there isn't much that can be done about it.
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Posted 3/21/15

Astrometal wrote:

I know crunchyroll probably do their best to secure worldwide licensing rights for all the titles that they procure, and it can be a complicated process. But, what really annoys me is when there is only the second season of a show available in my territory. What is the point of that if I haven't seen the first season? Surely if you can get the rights to the second or further seasons, you could obtain the rights to the first.

Which show specifically?

In some cases, the rights to the first series are held by a "friendly entity" (i.e., Sentai, NISA, etc.), which will license for streaming to CR, but since their original license wasn't made with international streaming in mind, it may only include rights for the US and Canada, or they may have sub-licensed rights for any other regions (UK, Australia, New Zealand) to another company.

Attempting to go back to the publisher and Japan to get a separate contract for the rights for other countries could prove to be too expensive for a library series in comparison to the viewership numbers CR could expect.

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I will admit, its annoying every season when all these great anime are announced, there is the zone restrictions; I think, "Wow, what a great series! I can't wait to... oh wait, only available in Zimbabwe. Dang. Dog Days 3 is one example! I can't find that anywhere on any legit site, even though CR has seasons 1 and 2. Still, I know there isn't much that can be done, especially now that the streaming market has fragmented. Maybe corporate sabotage?
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Posted 3/23/15 , edited 3/23/15
If a title is not available to us, it does not necessarily mean that another company acquired that particular license.
Availability is entirely at the discretion of the licensor. If they decide not to make a title available for streaming in a particular region or language, there's little we can do about it. If they want to market their title differently, it's something we have to accept and we have to move on, for example by trying to acquire it for the other regions we serve. Every party is entitled to use their property as they see fit, and rightfully so.
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Posted 4/2/15
This is such a sensitive and infuriating subject.

I hope those Japanese companies wake up someday and realize how idiotically stubborn they are.
Putting it as simple as it could be, when you're not making a show available for a certain region then ppl would simply find other ways to watch it illegally.

Same case here, the only losers are the industry and content producers themselves.
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Posted 4/2/15
They aren't necessarily stubborn. Business is just business. As I said, everyone has different aims and means to achieve them. There is no need to blame anyone or to take guesses why sometimes something doesn't work out. Also, what happens behind closed doors, stays behind closed doors - so neither party involved will ever spill any details.
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Posted 4/8/15
I just noticed this as i started traveling for work, so currently my work around is VPN. It works if i wanna see US shows or other countries
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Posted 4/8/15

ksurfer6 wrote:

I just noticed this as i started traveling for work, so currently my work around is VPN. It works if i wanna see US shows or other countries


You should be aware that using a VPN is a violation of the /ToS, and could result in your account being banned.
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You should be aware that using a VPN is a violation of the /ToS, and could result in your account being banned.


lol two things, using VPN is not breach of any ToS as per my knowledge as I'm an account user from USA henceforth using my region access isnt a violation. Another as per the OUTDATED ToS, everyone who is using Google Chrome is in violation.

Finally, I'm not modifying nor I'm changing any IP headers. VPN is merely encapsulating the IP header into another packet.
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eyeofpain
You should be aware that using a VPN is a violation of the /ToS, and could result in your account being banned.


lol two things, using VPN is not breach of any ToS as per my knowledge as I'm an account user from USA henceforth using my region access isnt a violation. Another as per the OUTDATED ToS, everyone who is using Google Chrome is in violation.

Finally, I'm not modifying nor I'm changing any IP headers. VPN is merely encapsulating the IP header into another packet.


It is still a "forge[d]... TCP/IP packet header" used to provide "false source-identifying information."
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