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Posted 3/21/15
Why do people still oppose it? To me it just make no sense.
Posted 3/21/15 , edited 3/21/15
Why do people care what other people do? Thats the way life is, nobody agrees with 100% with everyone.

Seeing as how you're 14, I wouldn't worry about things like this...
Posted 3/21/15
they don't want us to play god or something.
it's ethically questionable... because you are experimenting with embryo (live or aborted). because that's where stem cells come from...
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Posted 3/21/15
because it's "not ethical" lmao
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GayAsianBoy wrote:

it's ethically questionable... because you are experimenting with embryo (live or aborted). because that's where stem cells come from...


Stem cells can also be filtered out of ones own blood, lipid cells, and bone marrow. Also, they can be artificially grown now. I dont think embryonic stem cells are really used that much anymore.

Posted 3/21/15

GayAsianBoy wrote:

they don't want us to play god or something.
it's ethically questionable... because you are experimenting with embryo (live or aborted). because that's where stem cells come from...


Dude stem cells come from other places too.
Posted 3/21/15 , edited 3/21/15

KennyZha wrote:

Why do people still oppose it? To me it just make no sense.


There some crazy religious people who think stem cells will only be made by making abortions. That the apex of ignorance right there. Stem cells can be made from other places too. There scientist right now making Stem Cells from Belly Fat.
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Posted 3/21/15 , edited 3/22/15
Full Metal Alchemist will give you lots of reasons not to play with stem cells.
Posted 3/22/15 , edited 3/22/15

Kageru77 wrote:

Stem cells can also be filtered out of ones own blood, lipid cells, and bone marrow. Also, they can be artificially grown now. I dont think embryonic stem cells are really used that much anymore.




KarenAraragi wrote:

Dude stem cells come from other places too.



My point still stands. You still need to experiment with embryonic stem cells. Even if there are induced pluripotent cells.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/stemcells/scissues/


See the line bolded in red.


With alternatives to hES cells now available, the debate over stem cell research is becoming increasingly irrelevant. But ethical questions regarding hES cells may not entirely go away.

For now, some human embryos will still be needed for research. iPS cells are not exactly the same as hES cells, and hES cells still provide important controls: they are a gold standard against which the "stemness" of other cells is measured.




hES = human embryonic stem cells
iPS = induced pluripotent cells (the cells you guys are talking about, which closely represents hES, but are taken from adults, instead of embryo")

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The only way to get embryonic stem cells are from EMBRYO, that's why they're called 'embryonic'. And these are the cells that you WANT for regenerative medicine, not adult stem cells...

Yes, they've found a way to reprogram adult stem cells into embryonic stem cells... but they're not the same.
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Posted 3/22/15
I don't really know how I feel about the ethics of it, I assume the major concern is that if embryonic stem cells from aborted foetus are used in medical experiments it will encourage people to have abortions? Is that the logic or am I missing something?

I terms of should we be using cells from foetuses that have already been aborted? I guess I come down to the permission from the women in question. It seems silly not to if these cells are simply to die any-ways surely something good could come of it. I mean I carry a organ donor card if I die hopefully someone can use my organs after me.
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Posted 3/22/15 , edited 3/22/15

GayAsianBoy wrote:


Kageru77 wrote:

Stem cells can also be filtered out of ones own blood, lipid cells, and bone marrow. Also, they can be artificially grown now. I dont think embryonic stem cells are really used that much anymore.




KarenAraragi wrote:

Dude stem cells come from other places too.



My point still stands. You still need to experiment with embryonic stem cells. Even if there are induced pluripotent cells.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/stemcells/scissues/


See the line bolded in red.


With alternatives to hES cells now available, the debate over stem cell research is becoming increasingly irrelevant. But ethical questions regarding hES cells may not entirely go away.

For now, some human embryos will still be needed for research. iPS cells are not exactly the same as hES cells, and hES cells still provide important controls: they are a gold standard against which the "stemness" of other cells is measured.




hES = human embryonic stem cells
iPS = induced pluripotent cells (the cells you guys are talking about, which closely represents hES, but are taken from adults, instead of embryo")

_______________


The only way to get embryonic stem cells are from EMBRYO, that's why they're called 'embryonic'. And these are the cells that you WANT for regenerative medicine, not adult stem cells...

Yes, they've found a way to reprogram adult stem cells into embryonic stem cells... but they're not the same.


there is a source of embryonic stem cells in any normal delivery as well,the umbilical cord contains large concentrations of human stem cells and quite a few places allow parents to cryogenicly preserve them for later use as well.
you could easily have true human stem cells for every single person in society if you planned for it at birth, at least enough for it never to be an issue for most people.

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Posted 3/22/15 , edited 3/22/15
Because they're either short-sighted, ignorant, superstitious, scared of progress or several/all of the above.


GayAsianBoy wrote:
they don't want us to play god or something.


I've heard that argument so many times, and it is literally one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
Next to arguing for/against something on the grounds that it is natural/unnatural.
Posted 3/22/15

GayAsianBoy wrote:


Kageru77 wrote:

Stem cells can also be filtered out of ones own blood, lipid cells, and bone marrow. Also, they can be artificially grown now. I dont think embryonic stem cells are really used that much anymore.




KarenAraragi wrote:

Dude stem cells come from other places too.



My point still stands. You still need to experiment with embryonic stem cells. Even if there are induced pluripotent cells.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/stemcells/scissues/


See the line bolded in red.


With alternatives to hES cells now available, the debate over stem cell research is becoming increasingly irrelevant. But ethical questions regarding hES cells may not entirely go away.

For now, some human embryos will still be needed for research. iPS cells are not exactly the same as hES cells, and hES cells still provide important controls: they are a gold standard against which the "stemness" of other cells is measured.




hES = human embryonic stem cells
iPS = induced pluripotent cells (the cells you guys are talking about, which closely represents hES, but are taken from adults, instead of embryo")

_______________


The only way to get embryonic stem cells are from EMBRYO, that's why they're called 'embryonic'. And these are the cells that you WANT for regenerative medicine, not adult stem cells...

Yes, they've found a way to reprogram adult stem cells into embryonic stem cells... but they're not the same.


I understand why will you be against the idea but there are ways to obtain stem cells without killing the baby.
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Posted 3/22/15

KyotoTofu wrote:

Why do people care what other people do? Thats the way life is, nobody agrees with 100% with everyone.

Seeing as how you're 14, I wouldn't worry about things like this...


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Hey kids,

The Republican battle over stem cell research killed a lot of people including diabetics. There may be cures in that research, but the money is in treatment. Playing with peoples lives for fun and profit.
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