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Posted 3/23/15

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I still think it's a little fucked, I feel like if you enjoy it your true pervy piece of pedophile comes out. I would also like to talk about the fact that so much anime that is coming out right now is all about high school aged girls, and younger. Like droves of underaged girls being all cheeky, and pervy with each other. I know I'm not the only adult here, can I just get some grown ass adult shit that doesn't make me feel like a sad perverted creeper sitting at the kiddy table. I want to see the story about the 30 year old droves of bitches doing kinky shit! That or them doing their taxes, oohhh taxes....


A battle anime about taxes. That would be nice.


for some reason i think i might watch that
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Posted 3/23/15
Lolies are for protecting. Do not lewd the loli.
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I am personally not a fan of Lolicon (female characters aged 1-10) related material.

I sort of consider Loliconism as a form of psuedo-pedophilia (not actual pedophilia where the person is a legitimate kiddy fiddler) ; while there is nothing inherently wrong with Loli doujinshi and hentai, its still a bit of a taboo thing to depict such young children in sexual situations. At its core, it is slightly off putting to the mainstream society.

However, given the fact I have a BDSM fetish, I also am into something that is a bit off putting to mainstream society so I am more sympathetic to the case of the lolicons.

I think that lolicon doujins however, should be kept legal as it can be an outlet for a fetish or attraction that would otherwise destroy public health and morality.

While I do not personally agree with lolicon related material, I have no problem with it, as there are no facts and statistics supporting the idea that it turns people into pedophiles (given the fact the children are 2d and not 3d). I think if we were to make lolicon eroge manga illegal we would be closely teetering on Orwells predictions of a thought policed society ruled by a totalitarian government.

In all actuality, why does it matter that certain individuals find themselves attracted to imaginary young children? Does it somehow effect the rest of society? is a young innocent child actually being exploited?

It doesn't matter, it doesn't effect society and no one is being exploited, so why is there such a stigma towards something that is not detrimental to anyone? Why are people rallying for the rights of 2d children when there are ACTUAL pedophiles brutally ruining the lives of innocent children.

What's next? are we going to go after people with other fetishes like Russia is doing?

In summation, while I dont personally enjoy and or like lolicon material, I believe that people should be allowed do what they want, so long as no one is being exploited or negatively effected by said activity.
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Attraction to cartoon characters is not the same as being attracted to living children. Not all lolicons are paedophiles, and not all paedophiles are into cartoon depictions. If you imagine a venn diagram there would be a group of lolicons who believe sexually suggestive images of real children is abhorent, a group of paedophiles who don't get off on cartoon images, and a group that intersects both... Lastly, believe it or not there are paedohpiles who are disgusted with themselves, very remorseful about the attraction they cannot control. They want help, but are afraid they will be arrested. Many of them become depressed, and or commit suicide. On the other hand there are some paedophiles without remorse, and they don't care about the exploitation and abuse of children, if they can get away with it.
Anyway, I think for most people the attraction to loli-cartoons, and attraction to living exploited and abused children is an enormous difference.
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I remember watching Kodomo no Jikan when I was like 11-12 years old. All I remember is the ending song and that it was lewd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS528dPqWm4

After that, I decided not to watch anime with lolis ever again.
Years have passed, and I still don't like lolis but just the fact that some of them are funny, like Ren-chon from Non Non Biyori.

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Posted 3/23/15

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I remember watching Kodomo no Jikan when I was like 11-12 years old. All I remember is the ending song and that it was lewd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS528dPqWm4

After that, I decided not to watch anime with lolis ever again.
Years have passed, and I still don't like lolis but just the fact that some of them are funny, like Ren-chon from Non Non Biyori.



Trust me you should watch it again now that you'll better understand it. It's not all lewd stuff. I don't even care about the whole loli thing, to me I just watched it and it turned out to be a nice story.
Posted 3/23/15
Lolicon is just fantasy, I will not judge someone who likes it and consider that person a pedophile. As for me, I don't really like it because it makes me uncomfortable watching underage naked girls so I don't like it...it is even worse when a 5 year old has big boobs (I feel disgusted) but this is just me, I don't like loli but I don't care if someone else likes it AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FANTASY AND REALITY.
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Some are disturbing. I could just about manage to see those who are supposed to be very petite adults but those that are teens or tweens having crushes or even relationships with people old enough to be their parents is very disturbing. I'd call that examples of paedophilia.
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Lolicon is just fantasy, I will not judge someone who likes it and consider that person a pedophile. As for me, I don't really like it because it makes me uncomfortable watching underage naked girls :crazy: so I don't like it...it is even worse when a 5 year old has big boobs (I feel disgusted) but this is just me, I don't like loli but I don't care if someone else likes it AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FANTASY AND REALITY.


you do realize 99% of all nudity in anime is underage, right?
rias, lala, pretty much every chick.

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Posted 3/23/15

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I don't like loli but I don't care if someone else likes it AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FANTASY AND REALITY.


I agree completely with you!
As long as it doesn't take over a person in real life to where they'd feel urges toward real children.
Posted 3/23/15

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Ssomething wrote:

Lolicon is just fantasy, I will not judge someone who likes it and consider that person a pedophile. As for me, I don't really like it because it makes me uncomfortable watching underage naked girls :crazy: so I don't like it...it is even worse when a 5 year old has big boobs (I feel disgusted) but this is just me, I don't like loli but I don't care if someone else likes it AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FANTASY AND REALITY.


you do realize 99% of all nudity in anime is underage, right?
rias, lala, pretty much every chick.



Nudity like in hentai? I watch hentai with grown up chicks like the ones from Bible black. You mean ecchi? I don't watch all of it but I enjoyed Seikon no qwaser and there was a lesbian loli girl that I fast-forwarded every time she came up naked or in sexual situations. I simply don't like it. But girls like Mafuyu is my type and what I consider alright, I think most anime girls look like her.

I don't watch magical girls anime or any anime where very young girls are naked...at least not the ones I watch so I guess I'm watching the 1% of it lol



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I agree completely with you!
As long as it doesn't take over a person in real life to where they'd feel urges toward real children.


Exactly
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Many involving harem/romance storylines tend to irritate me, because artists commonly recycle excuses to justify the loli as a possible choice for a male in his late teens or adulthood. Examples such as:

She's actually a vampire/demon/ghost/magician who has been around for hundreds of years, but ages much slower than humans.
...or doesn't change physically.
...or is capable of altering her form at will, but chooses to look like a kid most of the time.
...or she actually is a human being, with no supernatural powers of any kind, and she's 16+ years old, but has been sickly all her life, so her body is excessively underdeveloped.

It gives me every reason to believe the person creating this character knows there is something morally wrong about it, but would rather resort to flimsy BS than create an older person with a petite build, like Fairy Tail's Levy, who is plenty cute and adorable, but wouldn't make a lover feel like he was robbing the cradle.

I strongly prefer shows with actual adults, but for a harmless comedy, or a respectable drama, I don't see a problem with incorporating lolicon elements.
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Posted 3/23/15 , edited 3/23/15
It is what it is. I don't really care.
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Posted 3/23/15
I don't care for it... I think that if they over do it though could end up bad... doesn't make it work just by saying they were sick when they were young and never grew up in mind or body... then they make them nude and put them in these sexual situations. I don't know but pretty soon that is going to backfire on the industry just time will tell... I personally can't watch it just makes me feel terrible inside... like I've falling into a trap and woke up one day and everything I watch that is anime just shows more and more girls nude and every so often they have a really young looking character. I mean I guess you can't have any morals if you watch anime... not anymore.
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Posted 3/23/15
To truly answer your question, one must first know the OPs personal definition(Morale Standards) of what a "loli" is. Keep in mind many cultures have very different views on what is culturally acceptable and what is not. In Japan for instance an Upperclassman dating a first or second year student could be culturally defined as a loli. While here in US such a relationship would not be so uncommon.

Myself personally I find age difference of +/- 15yrs acceptable as long as both parties are 18+, the exception to this rule is 3-5yrs if one of the parties is 16-18(i.e 19yr old dating a 17yr old). For instance " Inu X Boku , the male is 21 and the female is 16, although this pushes the age limit in my personal view i find it acceptable but many would consider him to be a loli. However a 35yr old and a 16yr old I find to be repulsive. Usually in these relations the younger partner has parental issues and is looking for a mother/father figure. I believe these drastic age differences are unnecessary and sickening but culturally acceptable in some parts of the world. So... if the OP would clarify their definition a more appropriate answer may be given.
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