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Utah becomes only state in America to approve death by firing squad.
Posted 3/24/15 , edited 3/24/15

Utah Gov. Gary Herbert has signed a law authorizing the use of firing squads to carry out death penalty sentences if officials cannot acquire lethal injection drugs, making the state the only one in America to approve of the method.

“Those who voiced opposition to this bill are primarily arguing against capital punishment in general and that decision has already been made in our state,” said Marty Carpenter, spokesman for Herbert, as quoted by the Guardian.

“We regret anyone ever commits the heinous crime of aggravated murder to merit the death penalty and we prefer to use our primary method of lethal injection when such a sentence is issued. However, when a jury makes the decision and a judge signs a death warrant, enforcing that lawful decision is the obligation of the executive branch.”

Although Utah is not expected to execute another inmate for years, capital punishment opponents have railed against the measure.

"It's an embarrassment to Utah," Ralph Dellapiana of the group Utahns for Alternatives to the Death Penalty said to the Associated Press. "We should be taking the moral lead on this. You can' be both pro-life and pro-death."

Last week, Herbert said he was "leaning toward" signing the bill so that the state could have a viable alternative to lethal injection when the appropriate drugs are not available. He has also called the use of a firing squad "a little bit gruesome,"though that did not keep him from signing the bill.

"The debate is really more than just the firing squad. It's should we have capital punishment or not?" he said at the time, according to NBC News. "It's not our preference, but we need to have a fallback."

The move comes as multiple states seek alternative methods for carrying out death penalty sentences, as many companies refuse to sell various drugs used in lethal injection combinations to state correctional departments.

Currently, death row inmates in Utah can be executed by way of a firing squad, but they must choose the option themselves. Now, the state will be able to employ a firing squad regardless of the prisoner's choice.

The last prisoner to be executed by firing squad in the state was Ronnie Lee Gardner in 2010.

While Utah may be the only state condoning the use of this method, other states are also looking into different means of execution. Last year, Tennessee became the first state in the US to authorize death via electric chair in the absence of lethal injection drugs, though the law faces a legal challenge from inmates who argue the method is unconstitutional.

Meanwhile, lawmakers in Oklahoma are considering a bill that would allow gas chambers to be used in executions.The Supreme Court is currently reviewing the state's lethal injection formula to determine whether it violates the Eighth Amendment’s protection against cruel and unusual punishment, since the state had a number of botched executions.

http://rt.com/usa/243409-utah-only-state-firing-squad/
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So is good or bad ? Do you think is more human or inhuman ?
What are yours thous on the dead penalty ? By the way 5 percent of people on dead row are innocent.

Posted 3/24/15 , edited 3/25/15
The death penalty debate has been done too many times so I won't address it this time around.

As for the firing squad being good or bad I will just say that if you are going to put people to death then this is a fine way to do it.
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In my opinion, shooting can be more reliable and quick than lethal injection.

It seems like they are still having the lethal injection be used as the main method. Firing squad as backup seems okay to me. I do not consider the death penalty to be cruel or unusual when it is used to punish the most heinous crimes. The main issues involve the procedure of issuing and carrying out the sentence, not the death penalty itself.
Posted 3/24/15 , edited 3/24/15
personally believe this is barbaric...
backwards etc.
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It seems fine to me but i just know those people are going to be all angry at Utah like "OMG THAT'S SO INHUMANE!" when back in history there are records of people being impaled on spikes. Not even quick death. It could take days for the poor soul to die even though they usually did nothing to deserve such a thing.If that ever came back and there is literally a 0% chance, then I'd be outraged but this seems fine in my eyes. Only the worst of the worst deserve penalty like that and if it's happening either way then just make it quick and not painful over several days.
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personally believe this is barbaric...
backwards etc.


You mean the dead penalty or dead by gun quad ? Because legal injection seen like the worst of all.
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jaykirbydudee wrote:

It seems fine to me but i just know those people are going to be all angry at Utah like "OMG THAT'S SO INHUMANE!" when back in history there are records of people being impaled on spikes. Not even quick death. It could take days for the poor soul to die even though they usually did nothing to deserve such a thing.If that ever came back and there is literally a 0% chance, then I'd be outraged but this seems fine in my eyes. Only the worst of the worst deserve penalty like that and if it's happening either way then just make it quick and not painful over several days.


That remind me of Vlad the Impaler
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Look up Blood Atonement in the Mormon Religion. In short, they feel that blood must be spilled on the ground for a person to be forgiven. Hence, firing squads.
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Man, this just sounds so ridiculous to me. I can only imagine a bunch of 1700's soldiers shooting some poor man in the back while he's standing against a wall. I guess it works just the same.
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jaykirbydudee wrote:

It seems fine to me but i just know those people are going to be all angry at Utah like "OMG THAT'S SO INHUMANE!" when back in history there are records of people being impaled on spikes.


What happened then doesn't change what we're doing now, it doesn't make it any less barbaric.

But when we already use the death penalty, I guess it doesn't make any difference. Lethal injections can list minutes where they're just in excruciating pain. Honestly don't know which method is overall worse. If anyone actually opts in to watch either of these things happen, I think you can count yourself as a terrible human being.

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as far as execution goes, a .45 to the back of the head is about as painless as you can get.
the nerves cant process signals fast enough. you literally don't feel a thing.
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taking 10 .308 rounds to the chest is gonna be really quick.



it isn't like they haven't use the squad in the last twenty years.

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Look up Blood Atonement in the Mormon Religion. In short, they feel that blood must be spilled on the ground for a person to be forgiven. Hence, firing squads.


No. Mormons don't actually believe that nonsense.
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jaykirbydudee wrote:

It seems fine to me but i just know those people are going to be all angry at Utah like "OMG THAT'S SO INHUMANE!" when back in history there are records of people being impaled on spikes.


What happened then doesn't change what we're doing now, it doesn't make it any less barbaric.

But when we already use the death penalty, I guess it doesn't make any difference. Lethal injections can list minutes where they're just in excruciating pain. Honestly don't know which method is overall worse. If anyone actually opts in to watch either of these things happen, I think you can count yourself as a terrible human being.



Death and dying happen in the world. There's no way to avoid seeing death, even in sheltered first world societies. I believe punishment proportional to the crime is a necessary part of justice. I can understand not wanting to inflict death due to the desire to be morally superior to the wrongdoers, but it is one of those situations that are lose-lose. Fail to punish proportionately and you kill justice. Inflict death and you are a bad person. No matter which side a person takes, there is no compromise. All you can do is convince yourself that you want to be on a certain side.

I find death and dying to be fascinating. It is not because I enjoy seeing people suffer. It is that the process itself is undeniably interesting. Seeing death gives me new appreciation for life. However, wanting to see death is not the main reason we execute criminals.
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"The debate is really more than just the firing squad. It's should we have capital punishment or not?" he said at the time, according to NBC News. "It's not our preference, but we need to have a fallback."



Yep. Death is death. I don't know how a firing squad is less human than lethal injection. Especially when the injection is botched.
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