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I'm not one of your "avid" religious believers but, still a believer and I've been wondering, why do people hate on religion so much? Whether it's a person of no religion or a different religion, what makes the other belief stronger than the other? This doesn't apply to one religion, but pretty much all of them, I've seen people think their religion is more superior, but do different beliefs really effect which is inferior or not?

Hating on religion is pretty much on the same level of racism.

Do you dislike religion? If so, why?

What's your opinion on this?
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I don't hate any religion. I just don't care about it.
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For the record im agnostic but I feel in american atheism there is a real streak of arrogance among alot of atheists. Alot of them feel like atheism makes them feel inherently superior.
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Why do people hate organized religions? Take any sort of history class and you can understand why.

Edit: Sorry take a history class out of high school where they only teach the politically correct history, that isn't really historically correct.
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Cuz they believe differently

Cuz they have different opinions

Cuz they won't conform to social or political trends

Cuz the actions of the minority leave bad impressions of the whole

Cuz they can
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I like atheists from Latin America. They might not like religion but they have better things to than protest against the word Christmas.
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No one hates religions. They just advocate not believing everything in a book with no factual proof.

They want you to come to your own conclusions instead of believing every piece of dogmatic propaganda is force fed to you.

People dont hate religion, we hate those douchy people within a religion that think its okay to cut peoples heads off for being an apostate or telling homosexuals they can't get married because "the bible says so".

We hate people who disregard common sense and scientific evidence and say "nope, dinosaurs existed 6000 years ago, we just cant find them because the earth was totally flooded for 40 days even though there isn't enough water on the planet to actually flood the entire planet for that period of time".

Being religious, is totally fine. Being a condescending self righteous asshole on the other hand, who tries to force his beliefs on everyone else... isn't.
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Lets see here I don't actually hate folks with religion I have a strong dislike for the institutions that comprise some of them.

Any group that states it is the supreme moral authority and than uses an invisible being to enforce that morality and than claims you can be forgiven for your crimes if you confess them to the priest hood is not truly moral. Morality is not owned by religion they are not the experts on it their track recored for it sucks.

Any group that claims to have all the answers and than makes that answer it is the will of the deity in charge does not have answers. Answers are found when you question the answer it is the will of the deity is designed to stop a person from asking questions. I will always question someone when they say that is just the way it is it isn't an answer it is a cop out.

In the beginning religion were about power and death. Power to control peoples lives by giving them an answer to what happens when we die, all religions have an afterlife of some form this is a nice simple answer to the believer and some level of comfort. Death is all religion has left and they are afraid that even that power will be taken from them.

Nope don't hate religion it takes time and energy to hate which is better put else where. Wish they would have the same courtesy.
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Because some people can't see deeper than the surface. They see holy wars and other bad things happen that involve religions. They see narrow close minded stupid religious people. They blame religion for it without even looking at the underlying human causes and how much wider these are then just religion. It's an easy thing to blame while essentially ignoring everything else. 90% of the things that people say when complaining about religion have almost nothing to do with it.

When it comes to religious people hating other religions, I guess it's just a thought that their beliefs are absolute and anything even remotely different is wrong(Not exclusive to religions). After that it's just human nature gone wild.

Personally I'm not a believer but I don't hate religion either. God is essentially impossible for humans to prove or disprove. All "holy" writings like the bible are just fairy tales to me that I currently disregard without any evidence to convince me otherwise.

EDIT: The point I'm trying to make is that we should shift the discussion away from religion into what causes dangerous radical behavior and how we can reduce it. Blaming religion and only talking about religious people only succeeds in alienating most of the religious population and causing even more hate.
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I'm going to take a risk assume your not flame-bating.

I don't accept religion in the same light as racism because ultimately its a choice to believe what you believe. I tend to judge people by their actions and choices over what labels they choose to apply to themselves. I do this because their appear to be roughly as many versions of a particular religion as their are people who subscribe to it. There are very few "if any" beliefs that all members of any faith hold I've met Christians that don't believe there is a god (don't ask me how that works) and Hindus who are monotheists.

I was once a Christian and when I was I saw terrible things happen and stood by because other Christians told me it was what god wanted and that was good. I believed in the god I prayed too every night, I felt guilt for letting my fellows behave in the way they did and then felt guilt for feeling guilty about doing gods will because that meant I wasn't truly serving him. In the end I spent allot of time with a bible spoke up tried to justify why I didn't think this was what god wanted, to try to explain what my conscience and empathy was telling me. They listened to what i had to say, but I was no biblical scholar and they simply showed me parts that supported their position. When I was 16 I left the church and most of my family to live with an aunt in another part of the country, I had been exposed to ideas other than the ones told to me as the only truths, I went to another church for a while but in the end I realized I had been lied to, well possibly lied to is a bit strong some of them probably did believe what they were doing and saying to be true, mislead might be a better word.

I spent allot of time thinking about what i actually believed looking at other faiths and schools of thought. Ultimately decided I could not honestly believe that any of the theistic claims I had been exposed to could be said to be true. I thus stand a atheist by default in that I do not believe any of the theistic claims made to me to be true based on the evidence presented. I am not saying a God or Gods could not exist but that I feel the ones currently being posited don't.

If I bare any ill will to the religious it is leftover resentment from a childhood were i was encouraged to feel bad about myself constantly, to abdicate my own moral judgement in favor of that of a book (or a few other people's interpretation of such) and to believe that other people didn't have a sense of morality or just chose to be "evil".
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AzazelOfNexium wrote:

No one hates religions. They just advocate not believing everything in a book with no factual proof.

They want you to come to your own conclusions instead of believing every piece of dogmatic propaganda is force fed to you.

People dont hate religion, we hate those douchy people within a religion that think its okay to cut peoples heads off for being an apostate or telling homosexuals they can't get married because "the bible says so".

We hate people who disregard common sense and scientific evidence and say "nope, dinosaurs existed 6000 years ago, we just cant find them because the earth was totally flooded for 40 days even though there isn't enough water on the planet to actually flood the entire planet for that period of time".

Being religious, is totally fine. Being a condescending self righteous asshole on the other hand, who tries to force his beliefs on everyone else... isn't.




Being religious, is totally fine. Being a condescending self righteous asshole on the other hand, who tries to force his beliefs on everyone else... isn't.


This also applies to athiests.
The picture of religious people you just painted isn't an accurate portrayal of the vast majority of religious people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifical_Academy_of_Sciences
The official stance, at least of Catholicism, is that science and religion are in agreement, and science helps to add to our spiritual understanding of the world.
Douches are douches. That has little to do with religion. You can be an athiest douche.
and if I'm not mistaken the Bible is generally taken as allegory and a very culturally skewed history book.
By most people at least. There are also people who think they've been abducted by aliens and lizard people live in the center of the earth.
Non-religious people, I might add.
You can't just blame religion for everything wrong with the world. Scratch that, you can, but you won't be right.
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Most people hate on religious fanatics not on religion.
If religion helps you to be a better person that's awesome, I doubt you will find anyone against that. I think many people (including atheist) are ok with religion as long as you don't try to recruit people, avoid brainwashing kids and use your common sense. The Catholic Church burned thousands of people alive for things like studying the circulatory system (Miguel Servet) or trying to improve medical treatments. For centuries you could pay your way out of hell if you had enough money. Some people just use religion as a free card to hate on minorities and avoid any kind of personal responsibility. Obviously those people give everyone bad reputation.There is nothing wrong with Religion as long as people use their common sense. Religion without common sense is just fanaticism and most people will be against fanaticism of any kind. Why? because throughout history we can find thousands of examples when political/religious figures manage to manipulate people into committing horrible atrocities (mob mindset).

When someone says things like "do as I say or my God will punish you for eternity" that someone shouldn't be that surprised that most people are not going to react well to emotional blackmailing. Also they way that the Catholic Church tried to hide hundreds of cases of pedophilia for centuries has hurt their public image (and still does due to the lack of active punishment). Unfortunately religion lately has more to do with power, politics and money than with trying to be a better person.
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The amount of atrocities committed by all the Abrahamic religions in the name of God throughout history made me reconsider a lot of things. It feels like being a part of an institution that at its core is inherently evil. Yet at the same time I appreciated growing up Catholic. I wasn't taught to take the darker parts of the old testsment all that seriously, instead I learned a lot of moral lessons about love and forgiveness.

Even as a Christian though, such a large subsect of 'the faithful' focus all their energies on hate and fear to the point that it really hurts the credibility for a lot of people- hence you end up with a lot of disillusioned atheists/agnostics.
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I dont believe in any religion, mostly because i was brought up in a environment that has nothing to do with religion (never step foot inside a church before) but i dont "hate" it, im actually very interested in it and have read pages of my grandmas bible for my interest, The only problem i have with religion is that people out there will insult you because you are a atheist.

But i believe religion was created so the people in the pass (even today) could have a sense of "hope" since they were living in shitty times. But that "hope" also can be a destructive force. which can kill technology progress (middleages) and cause wars that can kill millions if not billions. It also creates wars to this day. Not to mention some churches dont let people in because of there sexuality (being gay) which i have a huge problem with, if religion is about love and stuff then why do people have to hate other people because of there sexuality over some words in the bible. In my eyes religion is more of a destructive force then it does good. But i dont hate it. people can believe w/e they want like i can chose what i can believe in. I hope i did not insult anyone in my point of view on religion.
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Religion--or rather Christianity in particular (when discussing domestic affairs)--holds a rather privileged spot in our culture. For long, Christian beliefs have been seen as default, although that has wavered significantly as of late. As such, you have an institution that had almost uniform influence now being challenged on some grounds, and when politics get involved, it's frustrating to see religion winning (or at least starting out ahead) simply because of that privilege.

I realize what I said was just abstract, so let me illustrate with some concrete examples,

- Coming out as an atheist can be described as 'political suicide.' Every politician, especially those running for president, have to demonstrate they are a person of faith. Think Obama and how he was questioned as being Muslim even though he is Christian.

- Just LGBT politics in general. Many extremists want to assert they are the victim of LGBT equal right laws (same-sex marriage and anti-discrimination being the more prominent well). Indiana, IIRC, just passed a bill that said employers can refuse service based on 'religious freedom'--a bill that was no doubt a pro-discrimination bill against LGBT individuals. It's messier because the Bible says relatively little of homosexuality (and even then, almost of all it being male homosexuality), so much of the rhetoric comes from people like Anita Bryant that's somehow lived up until this day. It's a mess, to say the least.

- Churches status of being 501c. First, I have no problem with churches being non-profits (501c) per se, but the fact they get more legal protection than standard 501c is just bullshit. For example, in some states, churches do not need to disclose their income and expenses even though non-religious 501c do.

And then there's some other ones such as public prayers (i.e. Christian prayers before public fora consisting of adults), God's name in the pledge of allegiance (which was used as propaganda, during cold war era I think?) and on the back of the dollar bill, or the fact the ten commandments can be displayed in public places--however, these are usually seen as a more 'trivial' character so I'm not sure how much they're worth. There's also the fact that religion, depending on how a child grows up with it, can cause real psychological harm which is just flat-out ignored. I'm thinking, for example, how parents uses the concept of hell to discipline children which is tantamount to corporal punishment sans being mental instead of physical harm.

In the end though, I'm just trying to illustrate why people hold contempt for religion; it has a certain privilege, and it influences politics a lot more than nearly any other institution. Whether or not this influence is 'bad,' is another discussion altogether.

PS: Also, I realize that I'm stretching the definition of 'institution.' Christianity isn't a homogenous institution in the same sense that, say, the military is with uniform code and conduct and so on. What even defines a Christian isn't entirely clear, there are plenty of denominations, and so on. Nevertheless, the few common elements among Christians (e.g. belief in God, Jesus, and the Bible) still allows it to be used as a vector for rhetoric that only Christians can agree with (e.g. no atheist can believe [catastrophe] can't happen because God is watching us--lack of belief in God precludes that), even if it isn't a single homogeneous institution.
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