Post Reply Japan Commissions New Helicopter Carrier
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Posted 3/26/15
Is this a symptom of renunciation of Japan's pacifist principles?
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Posted 3/26/15 , edited 3/26/15
Japan has been building its defences up for a looong time, in 2013 it spend around $46.7 billion on defence, ranking it the 8th highest in the world for military expenditures. The idea of Japan not having an army has really been null and void since 1954.
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Posted 3/26/15
Thought it was two actually. Can't really blame them. With the US spread pretty thin and war weary right now Id want to be able to hold my own if China started something too.

On a side note the new larger ones can easily be converted to launch F-35s.
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Posted 3/26/15

mlchanges wrote:

Thought it was two actually. Can't really blame them. With the US spread pretty thin and war weary right now Id want to be able to hold my own if China started something too.

On a side note the new larger ones can easily be converted to launch F-35s.


I agree with this.
This has been a trend all across the globe. There's a lot of distrust with American competency and American priorities causing countries to act largely on their own, especially concerning defense issues. I wouldn't be surprised if countries like Japan started to pursue more contracts like this.
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Posted 3/26/15
Pacifist beliefs do not necessarily mean that there should be no stockpiling of weapons and funding of military. I think every country needs its own army.
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Posted 3/26/15
With china and japan at each other's throats all the time, i would too.
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Posted 3/26/15
The Japanese military needs more Yuudachi
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Japan's treaty with the United States at the end of WW2 prohibits Japan to have a military that can be used offensively until the expiration of the treaty. The expiration date for the treaty is aproaching soon. During the time of the treaty, the United States guarateed Japan's security, and permitted Japan to have a Self Defense Force.

When the treaty expires, Japan will be fully responsible for its own defense. This is why Japan is building up its military power. American military bases all over Japan will close, and be turned over to Japan for their own bases. The United States will is likely already negotiating with Japan, or have already negotiated with, Japan to determine the terms of their continued alliance with Japan once the current treaty expires.
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Posted 3/26/15
Power to defend, or power to conquer.

Who will you become when the world look at you?
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DeadlyOats wrote:

Japan's treaty with the United States at the end of WW2 prohibits Japan to have a military that can be used offensively until the expiration of the treaty. The expiration date for the treaty is aproaching soon. During the time of the treaty, the United States guarateed Japan's security, and permitted Japan to have a Self Defense Force.

When the treaty expires, Japan will be fully responsible for its own defense. This is why Japan is building up its military power. American military bases all over Japan will close, and be turned over to Japan for their own bases. The United States will is likely already negotiating with Japan, or have already negotiated with, Japan to determine the terms of their continued alliance with Japan once the current treaty expires.


The Treaty with the US dictated the percentage of weapons of war built in Japan. IE) They had to acquire foreign made weapons or foreign licensing to build them at home, it did not dictate military size. Also that treaty expired in 2005. The treaty now just says if a nation is to declare war on Japan, is to declare war on the US as well. Japan's self-written constitution is what makes them maintain a "self defense force" and not a "standing army" (capable of attack). The US already has all of its ground work laid out for maintain its 49,000 personnel and bases in Japan through the 2020s. At this point its up to Japan to determine what strides they make for their military. Since the treaty expatriation; hardliners, with US support, have been trying to get constitutional change to allow a standing army, but face a lot of public criticism. The Helicopter Destroyers recently commissioned (this is the second or third actually) are equivalent to US Landing Assault Ships and were built with operation of fixed wing aircraft, notably the V22 Osprey and F35B in mind. After the Lockheed Martin finishes its initial product launch of F35s to the US; Britain, Japan, and Australasia are the next primary nations to receive F35s. (all variants) But just as the US is in its own financial troubles and having a "bare-bones" budget, Japan is suffering, situation considering, equal of worse financial issues and only getting what it need for its military (SDF) as well. Actions in the world will dictate that policy though. China's aggression has slowed since its industrial bubble partially burst. So US focus is shifted to North Korea in the Pacific, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe. Still the US did permanently deploy (the only permanently forward deployed) a carrier task force to Yokosuka (outside Tokyo). But now since Russia activities, you have the US deploying troops in every European and NATO nation, as well as leading and participating in some of the largest military exercises since the 1980s. But those aren't headlines, you have to look for that news.
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Posted 3/26/15
That's nice. Though I don't see china starting anything with Japan anytime soon.
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Posted 3/26/15
They are allies now. we need them more that ever. The USS George Washington can't carry the whole region by its own.
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Posted 3/27/15 , edited 3/27/15
It's a mistake,plain and simple.
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